OT: "Western Culture Has Died a Politically-Correct Death" (2023 Update)

I did admit he isn't perfect. But no one is. Hilary's a swivel-eyed warmonger with a callous indifference to life and death. I know who I feel safer with given a binary choice!

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Remember "Red Robbo" at British Leyland? That's the kind of "union official" Bill thinks of as pretty unremarkably mainstream! What a chump he is.

Regrettably that is invariably the case.

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There is one, and only one upside to the union crisis of the 70s: no-one in their right mind will ever let unions have that level of power again.

He likes to draw people in with moments of apparent reasonableness, but it always goes very much downhill.

NT

You're right there! And when short of facts, Bill resorts to condescending, supercilious personal attacks - as if that sort of shabby tactic is going to win the argument. Actually, he reminds me very much of Phil Alison in that respect. Bill's just slightly more polite, that's all.

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Since Hillary Clinton didn't start any wars, "warmonger" is incorrect.

She didn't treat Gaddafi's death as a particularly regrettable event, but s ince Gaddafi was ultimately responsible for the Lockerbie bombing - Pan Am

103 in 1988 - which killed a number of American and British citizens, this doesn't actually represent callous indifference as much as sound judgement, which is not something that Cursitor Doom has mastered, or can recognise.

Cursitor Doom isn't somebody from whom one can expect sound judgement, but this is a bizarre choice, even for somebody as demented as he is.

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Dan

I can't say I do. He may have been demonised by the Daily Telegraph and sim ilar far-right newspapers which I didn't happen to read, but British Leylan d's industrial troubles seem to have been more due to incompetent managemen t that union militancy.

" Despite the duplication of production facilities as a result of the merge r, there were multiple single points of failure in the company's production network which meant that a strike in a single plant could stop many of the others."

Other car makers made sure that a strike at a single plant couldn't stop pr oduction, but British Leyland never bothered, which gave militant unionists a much more effective strike weapon than they should have had.

The similar stories about the printing unions in the newspaper business ref lect a similar level of managerial incompetence. Rupert Murdoch had deep en ough pockets to sort out the mess at the Times newspaper - reducing it some thing down there with the Daily Mail and Telegraph in the process.

Anybody who thinks that militant trade unionists brought down British indus try is ignoring the management incompetence that drove the unions into bein g militant, and the equally striking managerial incompetence that left the industries vulnerable to wild-cat strikes.

That isn't trolling - it's merely incompetent political propaganda.

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Having been - briefly - a very minor "trade union official" I'm very well a ware that anybody who got written up in the Tory press wouldn't have been " mainstream".

Cursitor Doom is the kind of gullible twit who would think otherwise.

in their right mind will ever let unions have that level of power again.

German industry runs happily (and much more profitably than UK industry) wi th rather more union power.

The problem with UK industry was UK management. They made lots of bad decis ions, and a few of them involved not taking the unions seriously, and tryin g to manage them by lying to them more or less non-stop. It didn't work the n, and it isn't working for Trump now.

Cursitor Doom regularly post links to right-wing mis-information, but doesn 't see this as trolling ...

NT's misinformation is less specifically right-wing - he's more of a broad- spectrum renaissance half-wit - but he's equally guilty of trolling, even i f he is equally incapable of understanding how he's trolling.

t always goes very much downhill.

NT sees his own point of view as reasonable, and gets upset when people ref use to take his silly ideas seriously.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

So which war did she start? And how?

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Pointing out that Cursitor Doom is a gullible twit is a condescending perso nal attack, but one does have to explain why a superficially reasonable-see ming individual would treat total nonsense posted by the likes of the Daily Mail, Russia Today and ZeroHedge as if it deserved to be taken seriously.

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Phil Alison is also frequently correct - which Cursitor Doom can't manage.

I am more polite, but one does have to be pretty explicit with people like Cursitor Doom - if you don't make it perfectly clear that they are posting demented rubbish they don't even notice that they are being corrected.

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Usually not. The participants are selected/self selected badly and the statistics are usually bad. People lie to pollsters. Leading questions influence responses. The true poll is the election; even exit polls can be wrong.

A person doesn't need 51% approval to get elected. They only need more approval than everyone else who is running. The electoral college means they don't even need that.

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Not if he sits in your KF.

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KRW is a pussy, and cannot defend himself verbally, so he filters.

You do not have to start a war to be a warmonger.

Dan

She wanted to start WW3, but thankfully the American people picked up on this and elected a man of peace instead.

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True. But that's only because they're suitably cautious in not allowing Marxist wreckers like *you* to take over their movement.

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Daily Mail, yes, Telegraph no. The Times today more closely resembles Murdoch's other wunderkind the Sun. Everything that man touches he debases.

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She was very proud of taking the US to war against Libya and gloating when Gaddafi was killed as a direct result. You know, Gaddafi who had complied with the US and UN resolutions, handed over his WMDs, ended his WMD programs, allowed UN inspections? He renounced terrorism, Libya was taken off the list of state sponsors of terrorism. Right after that Obama/Hillary bombed him, even with the recent knowledge of what that lead to in Iraq. You can be sure Iran and NK paid very close attention to that and are not about to fall for the same.

She laughed and gloated over it.

The gloating video is online. It's ghastly. She did it to demonstrate that she was tough to be Commander in Chief hence President. Massive misery and chaos followed in Africa and Europe, and ain't over yet. She sure killed a lot more people than Gaddafi.

Trump's bombing of the Syrian air base was carefully calibrated and net saved lives. It too sent a message.

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