OT: Propane prices

Direct gas generators are 50% to 60%, including my 60A unit. And I am using less than half of the capacity of the generator. Even so, i pay around $20 of gas to reduce $80 of electricity. Don't forget that they already have a mark-up on my natural gas.

----------------------------------------------------

Are you using the waste heat to heat the house? If not, your numbers dont sound right.

It was $2.75/gallon, here, a month or so back. I can't buy gasoline for anywhere near $2.75 a gallon (it's back up to $3.59), though. ;-)

Joerg already heats with wood.

That's alright. My water heater is outside. ;-)

If you're looking at cost, it doesn't matter where it comes from. The generation (in)efficiency is already built into the price.

And with Jose Cuervo from the inside :-)

Just kidding ...

I think Mrs. Joerg would kill you instantly.

In the '90s oil was a buck-and-a-little a gallon.

If the electricity goes out and I have propane, I can still bathe in comfort by heating the water on a range. You need to think deeply about this. If you can do the same with wood, you've got it made.

Poor baby ;-) ...Jim Thompson

Correct. Many years ago a governor screwed up and our power went off a lot (Arnold fixed that). So one night .. click .. beeeep .. gone. Some cussing was heard from the kitchen. She was preparing a real gourmet meal. So I fired up the barbecue and did the cooking part, with her instructions. Including Whiskey-peppercorn sauce, steamed vegetables, other little pots and pans, the works. We had a nice dinner. As usual I shut off the Weber's vents to save the coals for next time. Mistake. Big mistake. After dinner my wife wanted the usual espresso. Not happy about the Weber that was now cold. Not happy at all. Frantic pondering hammered the engineering part of my brains. Dashed to the garage, found a fondue sterno, snipped some wire out of leftover chain link fencing (that my wife always wanted to throw out ...), bent a cooking stand, ten minutes later the pot was gurgling and that espesso smell wafted through the kitchen.

Oh, if it absolutely had to be I'd cook it outside on the Weber. Our wood stove is an insert, it can't take a large kettle on top. But we also have a cooking alcove where we can do charcoal barbecueing indoors.

You should complain. Gasoline is about $US6.00 here in Sydney OZ today fo a US gallon.

"John Larkin" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Propane is a byproduct of refining gasoline. I was amazed at the price of a quart of oil, $4.60 at Walmart. For $2 more I can get synthetic Mobile 1. I remember Castrol for under a buck a quart, those days are gone.

Cheers

For me it has little to do with cost. I am retired, not long to live, and *my* comfort is the #1 priority.

To each his own.

Lately Walmart has IME not always had best pricing. You've got to price it out. Don't know this place, was just the first web hit that has the kind of oil I use:

No-name brands are sometimes much less and often come from the same production facility as name brands.

Our power still goes out a lot; almost daily, lately (electricity is cheap but hardly reliable). It's a RPITA with every frappin' appliance having a clock (and a power-out alarm on the 'fridge). Well, it's cheap, even if it is third-world reliable.

Certainly. A week ago it was $.35 cheaper. A year ago it was $1 cheaper. Two, $2. Thanks, Obummer.

Blame your government.

Got to buy simple gear in those areas. There are only two items in our house that have non backed up clocks. The microwave and the VCR (beats my why that industry just can't figure it out). The rest is all plain and simple but good quality. I design electronics for a living but I do not like electronics in appliances and cars. Because I didn't design it and they break a lot.