OT: meanwhile, in the model cosmopolitan Socialist state of Sweden...

More cultural enrichment to celebrate!

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The usual right-wing take on a minor public safety initiative that Breitbart chooses to see as evidence of social collapse.

As if the existence Beitbart wasn't evidence that you can fool far too many people for far too much of the time. Cursitor Doom is spectacularly easy to fool, and far too dumb to noticed that he is being exploited.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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"Only" eight cases in 2016? I suppose that's better than 52, but "only"?

Maybe they should do a "buy back" program. It (doesn't) work in Californica.

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Come on Bill, you can only go so far in defending the indefensible.

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Oh, Slowman can go much farther than that.

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tbart chooses to see as evidence of social collapse.

many people for far too much of the time. Cursitor Doom is spectacularly ea sy to fool, and far too dumb to noticed that he is being exploited.

A "buy back" policy for hand-grenades is indefensible? Anything that gets t hem out of circulation has to be a good idea.

house-to-house search isn't all that feasible (and would only serve to get the grenades moved out of town).

How they got there in the first place is an interesting question - the disi ntegration of the USSR in 1990 seemed to result in lot of ex-USSR military weapons getting onto the European black market - some cropped up in the Net herlands while we were there (though not anywhere where we were living).

According to the US NRA this would have made Europe a lot safer and more po litically stable ... it wasn't as if the guns ended up with Muslim terroris ts. Most of them seemed to be used by Bulgarian and Romanian drug-smuggling gangs - mostly Orthodox - if rather the less than observant - Christians.

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Worked fine in Australia. But we didn't have all that many mass shooting before the Port Arthur Massacre prompted the buy-back. Since then, most of the "massacres" have used other weapons - most recently a knife and a car

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Arson seems to have killed more than any other mechanisms.

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I've got to wonder what Perry thought that I was defending - he didn't bother telling us that.

Krw's imagination - unrestricted as it is by any coherent appreciation of my actual opinions - can dream up all kinds of things he'd expect me to support. He's clearly insane, but not florid enough about it to need to be locked away.

Maybe his wife puts his anti-psychotics in his food.

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On the contrary, the silly old fool has shown he has no limit! Hand grenades being tossed around willy-nilly by Muslim extremists in a previously civilised country is not by any stretch of the imagination "a minor public safety" issue. Rather, it's symptomatic of societal collapse arsing through massive and uncontrolled immigration.

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It's efficient for him to only consider the source of information, not the content.

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Military weapons getting into criminal hands is not a minor safety issue, b ut it happens everywhere. Muslim extremists aren't the only criminals who e xploit this resource when it's there to be exploited.

Twaddle. After the collapse of the USSR Warsaw Pact military weapons starte d showing up on the black market in the Netherlands. It might have been a s ymptom of social collapse behind the former Iron Curtain, but it wasn't a s ymptom of anything interesting happening in Dutch society.

Cursitor Doom is recycling his usual diet of particularly silly right-wing propaganda.

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itbart chooses to see as evidence of social collapse.

many people for far too much of the time. Cursitor Doom is spectacularly e asy to fool, and far too dumb to noticed that he is being exploited.

It's certainly efficient, but the content was that Sweden has a minor probl em with hand-grenades getting into criminal hands. The article didn't go i nto where they were coming from - they are probably old Warsaw Pact weapons , which started showing up in Western Europe after 1990 - and the Swedish s olution seems to be a no-questions-asked by-back, which ought to work.

My problem was that Breitbart was equating the presence of hand-grenades wi th the way that the Swedes run their country, when it's more likely a sympt om of how the Russians are running theirs.

All this is much too complicated for John Larkin to follow. Perry's claim t hat I was "defending" anything isn't based on anything I wrote. I was just pointing out that Breitbart was misrepreseting the facts - as usual - and t hat Cursitor Doom was a sucker for that kind of misrepresentation.

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Bill only believes something if it's been rubber stamped by Snopes (the biggest bunch of 'delusionists' on the internet). It must be traumatic for him having to suffer glimpses of the real world intruding into his own private one.

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Cursitor Doom posts obvious nonsense all the time, so his grasp of the real world does seem to be nonexistent. He resents it when I point out that the error-checking services have debunked one of his little fantasies, and com forts himself with the delusion that his ideas are more reliable than thei rs.

Anybody who has read much of the stuff he posts is well aware that he doesn 't know his bottom from his elbow, and feels free to believe in any kind of fatuous lunacy that suits his political agenda.

I can't say I feel traumatised by being exposed to his flood of twaddle (w hich would be his idea of the "real world") intruding on the "private" worl d I share with up-market newspapers. Amused comes closer to the mark.

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That smooth skinned thing is not a fragmentation grenade, it is a simple co ncussion grenade or maybe releases a gas or something. It's no more lethal than a fireworks. It's a toy. Looks like cyrillic marking on it, that makes it Balkan peninsula, who sold a shit ton of armaments to insurgents in pla ces like Syria.

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concussion grenade or maybe releases a gas or something. It's no more letha l than a fireworks. It's a toy. Looks like cyrillic marking on it, that mak es it Balkan peninsula, who sold a shit ton of armaments to insurgents in p laces like Syria.

what are you talking about? you can read the number and look it up

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e concussion grenade or maybe releases a gas or something. It's no more let hal than a fireworks. It's a toy. Looks like cyrillic marking on it, that m akes it Balkan peninsula, who sold a shit ton of armaments to insurgents in places like Syria.

Piece of junk with the fragmentation pattern on the interior. Uses trinitro toluene, aka TNT, that someone said is never used anymore.It's only 50 gram s or 1.8 oz, not real powerful. "To bring the fuse of the grenade into acti on, it is necessary to strike it with a primer-igniter on a solid object. "

- that's ridiculous. The one in the picture has a pin and safety release le ver. If by "deceleration" time, they mean fuse delay, then you have plenty of time to get out of the way.

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Keep back pedaling, Blobby.

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They've just used a library picture by the look of it, as most media outlets do. Doesn't change the veracity of the story one iota.

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Fred is jsut making up stuff,

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