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This is pretty cool!

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George H.

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George Herold
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Potentially pretty cool. However, the article doesn't say what happens off axis--it's easy to make a nice focused spot on axis.

And I don't believe that a good high-NA lens is 40% over the diffraction limit on axis.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

Yeah, one thumbs down for Science (the magazine), the cover story is still behind the pay wall.

George H.

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George Herold

Potentially pretty cool. However, the article doesn't say what happens off axis--it's easy to make a nice focused spot on axis.

And I don't believe that a good high-NA lens is 40% over the diffraction limit on axis.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs ===============================================================================

Also didn't say anything about chromatic aberrations. Wonder how wavelength dependent the "interaction" is, compared to the pillar size?

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Carl Ijames

OK, that's the world-changing scientific breakthrough of the day. Or hour.

Would be nice if it works, except for Nikon and Zeiss.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

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John Larkin

Yeah, but it's OLD technology, Nanomaterial lenses, gratings, and other items are familiar holograph items, and very early color photography used a similar trick, to make color images without any colored dyes.

Lippmann published about 1.2 centuries ago...

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whit3rd

Metamaterials aren't the same thing. A metamaterial effectively has a negat ive refractive index, which leads to a lot of remarkable properties.

The idea that IC processes are cheap compared with lensmaking is pretty fun ny though--it's the high precision mechanics, coatings, alignment,and low v olume that makes fancy lenses expensive, not generating the curved surfaces .

Full points for comedy.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

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ative refractive index, which leads to a lot of remarkable properties.

The article described, though, doesn't show any such properties; it looks e quivalent to a zone-plate or hologram lens. Embossed holograms are MUCH cheaper to mass-produce: recall the National Geographic cover with the hologram skull. ..

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whit3rd

I've seen holograms before--Fourier optics is part of my gig, y'know?

Metamaterials are different--phase propagates backwards, for one thing.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Dr Philip C D Hobbs 
Principal Consultant 
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC 
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 

160 North State Road #203 
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 

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Phil Hobbs

Not to change the subject (never!) but this is amazing:

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It's an optical diode! Way better than the microwave equivalents.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
picosecond timing   precision measurement  

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com 
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John Larkin

You have to use those a lot in fibre systems, because optical amplifiers are symmetric. A microwave amp might have an isolation of 30 dB or so, whereas an optical amp with 20 dB gain has an isolation of -20 dB (i.e.

50 dB worse).

They're also useful for keeping diode lasers stable, but you have to deal with the front facet reflection somehow. I usually use two-stage free-space isolators unless the laser is already pigtailed.

Diodes are liable to mode-hop if the backreflection is more than about

-60 dB optical.

The polarization-insensitive trick is fairly neat. See

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near the bottom.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Dr Philip C D Hobbs 
Principal Consultant 
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC 
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 

160 North State Road #203 
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 

hobbs at electrooptical dot net 
http://electrooptical.net
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Phil Hobbs

Are the things JL linked to based on the Faraday effect too?

George H.

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George Herold

huh.. never mind. I just learned that microwave circulators are based on Faraday rotation too.

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George H.

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George Herold

We ordered some (cheap, $70 range) and plan to see if they reduce noise in a fiber link. Back reflections certainly cause mode jumps in our lasers.

Right. The cheap VCSELS seem especially sensitive to back reflections. Turn-on is interesting if old stuff is coming back, sort of like a super-regen receiver.

There seem to be a lot of clever people in optical design.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
picosecond timing   precision measurement  

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com 
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
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John Larkin

I assume so. All other passive, time invariant elements are reciprocal (apart from loss).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Dr Philip C D Hobbs 
Principal Consultant 
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC 
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 

160 North State Road #203 
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 

hobbs at electrooptical dot net 
http://electrooptical.net
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Phil Hobbs

Coupling a diode laser into fiber is a pain... (I only have to do it ~once a year so I'm far from an expert.) As Phil said, I think my biggest issue is reflection from the front surface of the fiber. (which the isolater thing won't fix.) I make a "poor man's" isolator that reduces the reflection, with a linear polarizer and 1/4 waveplate. For best results the polarization optics should be right before the reflection. (I've put it a mirror bounce away without any difference that I could notice.) There are various "angle" tunings involved so you need a way to monitor the reflection... For my gizmo* there are side reflections that I look at with a video camera. George H.

*The gizmo is a wavemeter jr. A scanning interferometer.
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George Herold

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