op-amp suggestions - 20MHz, 30mA, hi-z output

Jan 19, 2005 28 Replies

Don't want much do you, Malcolm ?:-)

I'd just use a conventional OpAmp, and add discrete devices on the supply rails... a boost technique discussed here in the past few months.

Then a few additional discretes to tri-state the add-ons.

...Jim Thompson

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TI has lots of +-15 rail opamps that are *very* fast. THS3061 and such. Fairly cheap.

*That* I don't understand.

John

Hi,



I need an op-amp to drive 30mA, on 24V supply, signal is quite high frequency, 120kHz so I reckon I want at least 40dB to give low distortion, i.e. at least GBW 20MHz but 200MHz would be better. I also need to be able to turn the output high impedance.



Is there such an op-amp? And is it cheap?



TIA


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Malcolm



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He needs to "tri-state" his OpAmp.

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Think that's what he meant? Downstream analog switch, then.

John

Malcolm said "30mA". That's a bit rough with an analog switch.

...Jim Thompson

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Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! A technical discussion. Will miracles never cease!

As I said before, I'd use booster discretes at the output, making it a piece-a-cake to tri-state.

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Yep! Malcolm needs to provide more details.

...Jim Thompson

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More like a fet based relay.

John Popelish

Sounds good. The devil would be in the details of opening the feedback loop and the recovery on closing it, again. Especially if this had to happen quickly or often.

John Popelish

Not any more. Some of the parts are down to 1 ohm. And I suppose you could also use an SSR.

John

It's surprising how many people post a question and then vanish from the thread.

John

They are taking their answer off the air.

Thanks, - Win

Me? I fret over charge injection.

...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

But I wish they'd check in now and then to clarify just what the hell they really need.

John

30mA into what impedance? This matters a lot because at smaller swings, the problem gets easier.

How big is the signal when it is tri-stated? Simply putting a power MOSFET in the signal path may be enough.

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In article , Jim Thompson wrote: [...]

The requirement wasn't clear but I wonder if the LT1206 wouldn't do the job. It isn't exactly low cost, but it may run cheaper than a multicomponent circuit.

I believe that the LT1206's output is high impedance when you disable it.

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In article , John Popelish wrote: [...]

You could use two pairs of MOSFETs as switches. One MOSFET would isolate the output from the load and the other would connect a dummy load. This would keep the loop in bounds except for the switching charges. The switching would partially cancel.

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Hmm, various folks are wagging their tongues, failing to address your question. Several opamps meet your needs, such as these:

part f_T Vsupply Iout slew tristate number manuf MHz max max V/us output? comments ------ ----- --- ----- ---- ---- ------- ------------ CLC431 NSC 120 33V 60mA 2000 yes G = 2 min CLC411 NSC 200 36V 70mA 2300 yes +/-6V Vout max

Check the rest of the Comlinear (now NSC) product line. There are lots of muscular opamps, like the Analog Devices AD815. If you can run the opamp at lower voltages (e.g. add three-terminal regulators) there are lots of good choices.

Thanks, - Win

The world is round remember? This fellow is in the UK, for god's sake! While you are bitching about his lack of response, he's probably fast asleep.

Jeroen Belleman

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