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It's not all that hard to predict short-term weather. Just look at satellite and radar, and see what's coming in from whatever direction, and find out what the weather is like upstream. Factor in usual seasonal history, and you're 90% there. That's good for a few days, maybe, cartainly not two weeks. Here in SF, the 2-week and longer forcasts are essentially worthless. Pretty much 1 week, too.

It's fun to check the temperatures reported by unofficial, and official, weather stations in a small region. Temps can have a 10 degree F spread. One explanation for AGW is instrumentation error; air temperature is really hard to measure to 1 deg C accuracy.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
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Sorry... Wrong link. It should be: Latex semi-gloss paint has been in use since about 1970. Before that, it was whitewash. Latex paint absorbs more IR than whitewash, resulting in higher temperatures.

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The transition in paint could explain AGW. Satellites are probably better, and the "hiatus" in warming coincides with the whitewash-to-latex transition merging into the land-to-satellite transition.

Bigger mistakes have been made.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
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That's not any kind of "explanation of AGW", it's one of Anthony Watts' personal contribution to the denialist propaganda machine, which you fail to recognise as propaganda aimed at the ignorant ...

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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But not by people who have heard of the ice-core data ...

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Here's one possible (likely?) scenario......

Stage 1. Engineers point out that the 24hr cyclic operation of everything including the gas boilers is leading to serious plant problems including corrosion and cracking, as well as putting major pressure on costs. On that basis, the boilers, and the plant itself, are extended to 24 hour operation.

Stage 2. As the sheen on the mirrors degrades over time, and the cleaning schedule stretches out in the face of budgetary pressures, the contribution of solar ramps down. At some point someone asks the obvious question, 'why are we bothering', the solar is turned off and the plant continues as a gas fired installation.

Stage 3. At some stage, when major repairs are in the offing, the decision is made to scrap the lot and put in a row of Frame 9 GTs with the same capacity.

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Even more likely, anthropogenic global warming progresses, creating even mo re extreme weather than we have now, and the whole lot gets blown away by a more energetic-than-expected tornado. Not that it matters to the occasiona l hunter-gatherer survivor, since the distribution network had been blown a way a few years earlier.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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You are just full of excuses for rationalizing away things you don't like or understand. I know something else that can explain AGW and is a

*lot* more likely than latex in paint... all that CO2 we are dumping into the atmosphere.

If AGW isn't real, what is the extra CO2 doing? You can rationalize away the small deltas in temperature we are measuring, but you can't rationalize away the extra CO2 or the way it affects the retention of heat.

Yes, we can see that *very* clearly.

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