[?] Looking for a simple way to measure small SM inductors

Feb 10, 2011 16 Replies

Greetings from London. England.



I've accumulated quite a large collection of small surface-mount inductors, many of which have lost whatever markings they might have had in the past.



I know there are some very expensive network analysers and other devices available that are capable of measuring low-value SM inductors but I need a MUCH simpler/cheaper way of doing this, specifically with inductors in the 10nH to 1uH range which are well beyond the scope of most small inductance meters. I don't need accuracy better than about



20% - just an easy means of ranking values from low to high.

The indirect method that I've used for many years when I have needed to measure the value of a (physically larger) wire-ended low-value inductor involves soldering a known-value capacitor across it and then using a GDO (Grid Dip Oscillator - yes they do still exist!) to find the resonant frequency, from which I can then determine the inductance.



This arrangement is impractical for tiny SM components so I'm now considering building up a small range of simple test oscillator units, each with a small clip to hold the inductor under test. The Maxim MAX2605-2609 range of low-cost VCO ICs look ideally suited for this job since they can oscillate over frequencies from 45MHz to 650MHz with inductor values between 1.8uH and 4nH. I could then measure the oscillator's output with a frequency counter and determine the inductor value using a look-up table, or alternatively I could just measure the actual tuning voltage required by the VCO to produce a specific output frequency for a particular value of inductor. Obviously it would be necessary to determine and make allowance for the stray inductance/capacitance introduced by the clip arrangement by testing each oscillator using accurate known values of inductance.



Has anyone in this NG any comments or constructive suggestions to make about this idea? Alternatively, can anyone suggest any suitable low-cost (< $200 or so) devices that can measure small SM inductors?



TIA - Dave.



David C.Chapman - (dcchapman@minda.co.uk) --------------------------------------------------------------------------

The AADE meter, with the surfmount fixture, is about $120 in the USA. It measures C to 0.1 pF and L to, as I recall, 0.1 uH or so. It's invaluable for all sorts of things.

John

+1 - gets the job done, at an attractive price.
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:04:43 +0000) it happened David Chapman wrote in :

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Not always. If you look at something like the Coilcraft 0402CS or 0603CS, you'll often find several differently valued inductors with the *exact same numbers of turns* (and wound the exact same core) -- the difference is how scrunched-up or spaced-out those turns are. :-)

I Many thanks to all of those ho took the time to reply to my posting. I'll be ordering one of the L/C meters very soon - it looks ideal for the job..

73 - Dave.
David C.Chapman - (dcchapman@minda.co.uk) --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Besides the AADE LC meter there is also a LC meter based on a PIC16F628A. See:

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kit. The kit cost is $70.00.

Howard

That sure looks like a rip of the AADE meter. I wonder if they stole his code.

John

Excellent website. With just a little more effort you could have made the schematic COMPLETELY unreadable so we'd have to guess at ALL the part values.

Don't encourage his trolling.

You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated.

On a sunny day (Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:01:47 -0800) it happened mike wrote in :

For people like you all of life is a guessing.

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I know, the calculator allows for this. If it has a core then its not going to be very small either

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You can buy a very nice kit for basically the same circuit:

I built one and have had hours of fun with it. The MCU is pre-programmed, so the only real challenge in assembling it is working around a small mechanical alignment problem. Accurate and well worth the price.

Clifford Heath.

Ah, OK. I just looked at the first one:

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... which uses the formula that assumes even winding (that extra factor of 0.9*Radius on bottom comes about from the magnetic field diverging into the air, lowering the inductance relative to the infinity-long rod assumption used in deriving the "canoncial" inductance equation... if only, e.g., the center 1/3 of a rod is used for winding, the rod looks like a better approximation of being infinitely long).

Inductor with cores do get ridiculously tiny -- Coilcraft has them down to

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