We (the US) can have outlets in bathrooms, but they must be GCFI protected. ...Jim Thompson
We (the US) can have outlets in bathrooms, but they must be GCFI protected. ...Jim Thompson
What's the big deal with that? GCFI outlets in US bathrooms are common, and some larger bathrooms have reqular outlets for a vacuum cleaner or space heater.
Only on new works. The fallacy with all these regs is everything is always grandfathered in. :-/
Some bigger bathrooms have an 1-1/2" "outlet" that you plug a vacuum hose into :-) ...Jim Thompson
Jim Thompson wibbled on Thursday 11 March 2010 16:11
There seem to be many subtle differences... We cannot - the only exceptions being we can have a transformer isolated shaver socket (no earth reference) or a regular socket > 3m from the bath/shower - but as most people don't have bathrooms that big, it's mostly moot.
The Germans however do allow a socket in a bathroom, under similar conditions to yours.
As of the 17th Edition regs, all our sockets *must* be RCD protected, and through other regulations, in practice all wiring circuits must also be RCD protected now.
For that reason, my new panel is full of RCBOs rather than the older 1 or 2 RCDs feeding split bundle of MCBs.
That's why it is a good idea for posters asking electrical questions to clarify where they are :)
Michael A. Terrell wibbled on Thursday 11 March 2010 16:15
Not permitted here, unless you have a very large bathroom.
No power in bathrooms? Where do you plug in your electric heater, hair dryer, wide-screen TV, vacuum cleaner, circular saw, or oscilloscope?
Barbaric.
I have an Epson wide-carriage matrix printer in my downstairs bathroom, right next to the toilet.
John
Great for dispensing extra wide toilet paper!? (with custom floral designs!)
The Brits are just *so* behind the times...
;-)
Yes but some just provide the AC outlet, so you can choose your 'Weapons of Dirt Desruction'. ;-)
Some are the size of a small bedroom.
That way you can read fresh source code in your 'Library?' ;-)
John Larkin wibbled on Thursday 11 March 2010 16:58
;->
Or a server rack, in the closet.
John Larkin wibbled on Thursday 11 March 2010 16:58
Though seriously... A long long time ago, my father (Electrical Engineer, power specialist, worked for the London Electricity Board as was) was called to give expert opinion at an inquest.
It centered around the death of a man who had balanced an open bar electric heater on the side of his well earthed bath (RCDs didn't much exist then). The inevitable happened. Not sure why they needed an expert opinion but there you go...
Michael A. Terrell wibbled on Thursday 11 March 2010 17:29
Dump your logs whilst dumping your logs?
OK, I'll get me coat...
Michael A. Terrell wibbled on Thursday 11 March 2010 17:44
Closet != bathroom, unless it contains a bath or shower.
So, yes, a rack in the bog is OK.
Go stand in the corner, young man!
No, I'm talking about a large linen closet in the master bathroom. It's big enough to roll one of my enclosed relay racks into for my home network.
When my other half visits one of her friends to "paint together" (watercolor), they do so *in* her bathroom!
:)
Then you have to hose them down with a garden hose when they're done? ;-)
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