bjt and mosfet current dependence

Jul 09, 2012 3 Replies

Anyone know or know where I can find out how the bjt and mosfet parameters = depend on collector and drain currents and voltages? How much will the effe= ctive resistance of these devices change depending on the current that flow= s through them?



Suppose I find a base/gate value at some test conditions that gives me an e= ffective resistance of the device. I'm needing to know how the resistance w= ill change given different operating conditions.



For example:



Test condition: 10uA base + 1V Vce =3D=3D> 100mA =3D=3D> 1kOhm effective re= sistance Test condition: 10uA base + 4V Vce =3D=3D> ?? Test condition: 30uA base + 1V Vce =3D=3D> ?? Test condition: 30uA base + 4V Vce =3D=3D> ??



I'd like to be able to estimate the ??'s to a decent accuracy using theory = alone. That is, I'm looking for a formula R(Ib,Vce) for an ideal bjt and mo= sfet. It would also be very useful to have the formula depend on non-ideal = characteristics of these devices to increase the accuracy.


s depend on collector and drain currents and voltages? How much will the ef= fective resistance of these devices change depending on the current that fl= ows through them?

effective resistance of the device. I'm needing to know how the resistance= will change given different operating conditions.

resistance

y alone. That is, I'm looking for a formula R(Ib,Vce) for an ideal bjt and = mosfet. It would also be very useful to have the formula depend on non-idea= l characteristics of these devices to increase the accuracy.

Search on Ebers-Moll and Gummel-Poon.

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This should really have been posted to sci.electronics.basics

Here we bitch about the deficiencies in the Gummel-Poon model as embodied i= n the (free) LTSpice circuit simulation program, which comes with built-in = models for most widely used transistors and FETs, and advice on how to get = the manufacturers' Spice models for other parts and plug them into LTSpice.

--=20 Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Funny, though you seem perhaps to have some knowledge, I have not seen you in any spice discussions of late.

It's a while since I complained here - on January 14 - about not being able to get LTSpice to simulate squegging in Peter Baxandall's Class D oscillator with a big feed inductor. The thread ended up with 32 posts, none of them all that helpful.

Presumably I could do it with a VBIC - Vertical Bipolar Inter Company - model of a bipolar transistor, which LTSpice does support, but the VBIC parameters seem to be known only to manufacturers and people with the gear to measure then directly.

Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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