Action reaction princcipe violation in uhf

The inexplicable thing about PNN thrust tests for observers is NOT the violation of Newton's third law... but that PNN thrust increases over time at the same power output! In other words, a phenomenon that seemingly violates the conservation of energy.

That isn't a URL but an e-mail address and it should work. You could have tested it without posting it publicly for spammers to harvest - it was posted here a lot in the early 2000's before the user-group got better at concealing e-mail addresses, so it doesn't create any new problems for me. many peole who post here haven't been posting here for that long.

Obviously. I'd be happy to sign a non-disclosure agreement.

Thrust isn't energy. If you apply the thrust to something that accelerates, then that something does accumulate energy,and there might be a violation of conservation.

Nothing in your test set-up goes anywhere so there is no power output from your test. You 250W of RF power is going somewhere - most likely warming up the equipment doing the test and its immediate environment.

This may be messing up your thrust measuring device and make it's output even more misleading.

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The information sent is about Nova Astronautics at the National Public Library of Florence

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I did get the e-mail. Google translate rendered the Italian into English. It was pretty much a repetition of the assertions made here.

Apparently the 300W of 433MHz UHF is generated from lithium batteries hanging on the beam balance along with the antenna and presumably some kind of RF oscillator. The pictures do show chunks of electronics with projecting cooling fins

That's quite a lot of heat being dissipated in an limited area - putting the system inside a closed box would call for even more vigorous convection to dissipate the heat.

If no air mass movement has been seen, it got to be because nobody involved had a clue about how to detect it - small smoke generators can be quite revealing.

I've seen little vane anemometers used to check out the fan-based cooling systems for electronics mounted in racks, but that would be for faster air circulation than you'd need to get rid of a few hundred Watts of dissipation.

You unfortunately confirm to me that no words or photos convince you. Everyone who has witnessed it has never found air flows or any other emissions. Any of your thermal criticisms based on wind are completely unfounded if a prototype is sealed in a closed box. And then we can show all the details of F432BA if someone is willing to collaborate seriously... otherwise, we can forget it. I was given a patent because I correctly applied the Lorentz force to open circuits... but you never talk about the Lorentz force and always think of hypothetical winds. Those who have witnessed it have never found what you think. Watch the videos at the end of

Regards

You need better informed observers.

Convection currents circulate within closed boxes. They tend to exhibit laminar flow - it takes a big box to get the

Magnetism is a Lorentz force, as I've pointed out from time to time. Wheeler and Feynman pointed it out in the physics literature around

Patent lawyers wouldn't have a clue whether you'd got the physics right. They've finally decided that perpetual notion machines can't work, but even that took quite a while.

Why bother. If you don't check for the presence of convection currents in you own gear, why would you be interested in proof that they existed in other people's set-ups?

Hot air rises. Rotating a heater will briefly reverse the thermal gradient within the heater, but the convection currents will keep on moving the air closest the hot bits upwards, cooling them and making the bits immediately above them even warmer.

I took a peek at your experimental setup, with the coax pendulum.

Hundreds of watts of RF will heat up that coax and that will generate small forces. Are you using teflon coax? It does molecular phase changes around room temp.

Try using DC current to create the equivalent heating and see if that moves the box. Or a heat gun maybe.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics