I was initially pleased to hear from Microsoft that Windows 10 IoT Core Insider Preview with support for Raspberry Pi 2 has been released. The OS is free and is available after some tedious registration here . I was deeply disappointed to find that you need to have a computer dedicated to running the full Windows 10 preview to use it. I have not tried it on the Pi because I don't yet have a spare computer with enough grunt to run Windows 10 and I'm not willing to "upgrade" my current Wintel or Linux computers to an OS preview.
Microsoft did contribute to the many ongoing discussions on a preferred SD card and vendor for the Pi by recommending two. To save you the trouble of registering to read the link above the cards are the Samsung Evo and the SanDisk Ultra Micro SDHC .
Not according to the page referenced above. It says "NOTE: you will need to follow these instructions on a physical Windows machine (and not a VM) because you need access to the SD card reader".
Why do they think that it is easier to install Windows on new machine just to make an image on SD card then just making image and letting user decide what method will be used to write that image to sd card? There's no difference in hardware on Pis...
Because Microsoft are once again getting scared of people using Linux they gave aware Win XP almost FOC when net-books started to become popular to kill off that competition & now Win 10 IT is an attempt to stop kids learning Linux whilst experimenting with the PI at school.
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Even if I were to agree without, I don't see how running Minecraft or other games actually teaches anyone much about programming. You can program stuff in C/C++ or other languages under Linux or Windows and learn something about how computers work. I think IoT is much wider than simply to "stop kids learning about Linux".
So... if some1 installs it... and then makes an image od the card... then the image could be extracted and compressed to .xz... and uploaded. Right? No need for individual images. Right?
It's absolute bloody travesty... they give away a free OS and then expect you to use their tools to develop and support the free OS. The audacity of them to give you a free target OS and free hosting OS and free toolkit to develop on. Worse, the tools they have developed to put this free OS onto an SD card only runs on their free software. How dare they give something away that doesn't work with some other tools.
It's an outrage. By giving it away instead of letting us pirate it we wont be able to get one over on Gates^WBallmer^WThe Man! Bastards!
"Gordon Levi" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...
An existing Microsoft account is sufficient.
I used a 16 GB micro SDHC from Hama, it worked using a USB card reader on the Windows 10 notebook in my case. I suppose that Microsoft uses the DISM.EXE way to getting ride with the different sizes of SD cards (the well-knows step with expanding the file system in Raspbian). Note: Because my Windows 10 lab machine lacks a buil-in card reader, I first tried to run DISM.EXE on a USB stick with similar size, the transferring the USB stick's content to the SD card on another machine running Debian Linux. This way will fail. A small USB card reader stick[1] for micro SD bought from Ebay solved that problem, so I got the Raspberry Pi 2 booting. :-)
Here some details for interesting people. Nmap scan:
Starting Nmap 6.47 (
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) at 2015-05-30 17:43 CEST Nmap scan report for pi2vater (172.30.1.54) Host is up (0.0016s latency). rDNS record for 172.30.1.54: pi2vater.intra.example.com Not shown: 995 filtered ports PORT STATE SERVICE
21/tcp open ftp
22/tcp open ssh
80/tcp open http
135/tcp open msrpc
445/tcp open microsoft-ds MAC Address: B8:27:EB:xx:xx:xx (Raspberry Pi Foundation)
Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 23.35 seconds
i.e. Microsoft has running a web server as well as a an SSH port. So I used PuTTY to login:
login as: Administrator snipped-for-privacy@pi2vater.intra.example.com's password: Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10075] Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\>ver ver
Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10075]
C:\>dir dir Volume in drive C is MainOS Volume Serial Number is E495-0B2B
Directory of C:\
04/28/2015 11:56 PM Data [\??\Volume{75d719b9-ee3b-11e4-942b-00155d4e9400}\]
04/28/2015 11:55 PM 26,002 DEVELOPMENT_EULA.rtf
04/28/2015 11:56 PM DPP [\??\Volume{75d719b8-ee3b-11e4-942b-00155d4e9400}\]
04/28/2015 11:57 PM EFI
04/28/2015 11:56 PM EFIESP [\??\Volume{75d719b2-ee3b-11e4-942b-00155d4e9400}\]
05/30/2015 07:48 AM 163 MetaConfig.xml
04/28/2015 11:57 PM PROGRAM FILES
04/28/2015 11:57 PM PROGRAM FILES (X86)
04/28/2015 11:57 PM PROGRAMDATA
04/28/2015 11:57 PM PROGRAMS
05/30/2015 07:49 AM RDBG
04/25/2015 07:22 PM USERS
05/30/2015 07:48 AM Windows 2 File(s) 26,165 bytes 11 Dir(s) 3,313,463,296 bytes free
C:\>_
SSH login in general works except arrow keys or even backspace, i.e. Microsoft's current CMD.EXE command line editor capabilities are far away from /bin/bash inside each Linux...
List of running services:
C:\>net start net start These Windows services are started:
AllJoyn Router Service B Web Management Background Tasks Infrastructure Service Base Filtering Engine bthserv CNG Key Isolation CoreMessaging Cryptographic Services DCOM Server Process Launcher DHCP Client Diagnostics Tracking Service DNS Client InputService Network List Service Network Location Awareness Network Store Interface Service Power Remote Procedure Call (RPC) RPC Endpoint Mapper Schedule Security Accounts Manager Server Sirep Test Service SshSvc System Events Broker TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Time Broker User Manager User Profile Service Windows Audio Windows Audio Endpoint Builder Windows Connection Manager Windows Event Log Windows Firewall Windows Font Cache Service Windows Management Instrumentation Windows Remote Management (WS-Management) Windows Time Windows Update WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service WLAN AutoConfig Workstation WWAN AutoConfig
The command completed successfully.
C:\>_
This large list (I really don't understand why to use such a very long list of services on a embedded system!) should clearly explain why Microsoft wants a Raspberry Pi 2 equipped with 1 GB RAM and 4 core CPU at least compared to Raspbian which also works fine on all older Raspberry Pi models even with full desktop environment.
=> This clearly shows that Microsoft has ported their desktop PC Windows system to the ARM processsor.
There is even an active FTP server:
P:\>ftp pi2vater.intra.example.com Verbindung mit pi2vater.intra.example.com wurde hergestellt.
220 MinWin FTP server ready. Benutzer (pi2vater.intra.example.com:(none)): Administrator
331 User name ok. Kennwort:
230 User logged in. ftp> dir
200 PORT command successful.
150 Ok. d--------- 1 user group 0 Apr 29 08:56 Data
---------- 1 user group 26002 Apr 29 08:55 DEVELOPMENT_EULA.rtf d--------- 1 user group 0 Apr 29 08:56 DPP d--------- 1 user group 0 Apr 29 08:57 EFI d--------- 1 user group 0 Apr 29 08:56 EFIESP
---------- 1 user group 163 May 30 16:48 MetaConfig.xml d--------- 1 user group 0 Apr 29 08:57 PROGRAM FILES d--------- 1 user group 0 Apr 29 08:57 PROGRAM FILES (X86) d--------- 1 user group 0 Apr 29 08:57 PROGRAMDATA d--------- 1 user group 0 Apr 29 08:57 PROGRAMS d--------- 1 user group 0 May 30 16:49 RDBG d--------- 1 user group 0 Apr 29 08:56 System Volume Information d--------- 1 user group 0 Apr 26 04:22 USERS d--------- 1 user group 0 May 30 16:48 Windows
226 Transfer complete. FTP: 722 Bytes empfangen in 0.01Sekunden 90.25KB/s ftp> pwd
257 "/" is the current directory. ftp> bye
500 Unknown command.
P:\>_
I hope these text screenshots help exploring this new Windows OS for Raspberry Pi.
Andreas
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technically I don't see any reason it would not work Legally? it probably violates Micro$ofts license if you do it.
of course it would have been easy for micro$oft to have had a first boot registration system so they could have used a std image format but that goes against the Mirco$oft ethos
(which is really stupid if I am correct about them just wanting to throw a spanner in the works of Linux adoption)
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Not according to the referenced web page - "it will prompt you to create a social profile and accept license agreements... Once signed in, navigate to surveys, and complete all of surveys".
I assume that Hama don't make the SD card. The previous discussions in this group have recommended buying SD cards branded by the manufacturer and I was interested to note that Microsoft echoed that view.
I have snipped the details. Thanks for providing them.
I am accustomed to running xrdp and samba on my Pis so I can use the standard remote desktop and directory utilities on the Windows machine I use for development. I assume that a Windows 10 Pi appears as another Windows computer on the LAN but I don't see the remote desktop server in your list. Have I missed it? If not, can it be activated?
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