Problem: No sound outof the audio-jack on a 3B+

They guy mainly responsible for pulseaudio is also responsible for systemd...

Lennart Poettering.

Many think his mother should have taken a morning after pill...

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Oh jeeeez, i should have known.

Yes.

Alexandre,

Ok, out with it ! :-)

And as I'm being specific, install and/or partially remove in a /usefull/ manner. :-p

Randomly purging (or installing) packets isn't really my thing. I'm already wasting enough time trying to figure out when/why my sound goes mono after installing Bluetooth, and that isn't even the origional problem ! (having no analog sound at all)

Regards, Rudy Wieser

On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 08:17:03 +0100, "R.Wieser" declaimed the following:

The same way you installed it... Using apt(-get)* /remove/ (or uninstall, I forget which).

Start with just getting rid of pulseaudio:

sudo apt remove pulseaudio pulseaudio-*

(the second is to catch any optional plugins that may not be removed with the core)

* apparently the family of apt-get, apt-cache, etc. are being deprecated in favor of an all-encompassing apt command (which does have some nicer features -- like apt update will tell one if there are upgrades available) [using a Beaglebone for illustration]

debian@beaglebone:~$ sudo apt update [sudo] password for debian: Ign:1

stretch InRelease Get:2 stretch-updates InRelease [91.0 kB] Get:3 stretch InRelease [3,064 B] Get:4 stretch/updates InRelease [94.3 kB] Hit:5 stretch Release Get:6 stretch/main armhf Packages [1,116 kB] Get:7 stretch/updates/main armhf Packages [489 kB] Fetched 1,793 kB in 22h 15min 35s (22 B/s) Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done

3 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them. debian@beaglebone:~$

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Dennis,

:-) Yeah, I knew that one (in the same way you did).

Though the problem is that it doesn't seem that the /bluetooth/ part of the install is causing problems, but some other part, which most likely snuk in as "recommended" or "adviced".

Just starting to totally rip stuff out which might only have been updated/"enhanced" wrongly could easily cause more problems than that it solves. :-\ Which why I mentioned "a /usefull/ manner" (reverting to a previous install perhaps ?).

Also, its currently not even clear to me if pulseaudio is actually the culprit (still have not found/heard of a way to check anything)... It might still just be a plugin hijacking the analog output and sending it over bluetooth.

Regards, Rudy Wieser

Hello Rudy and others,

RW> Update:

RW> I bought another sd card and again installed NOOBS v3.2.0 on it.

Be wise, stop using NOOBS, that's for beginners and dummies who want to feel the first impression of several OSes. NOOBS os not intended for intensive daily use by power users. You are not a beginner anymore he? Next time install Raspbian, and the current version is Buster 30 sept.2019.

This works on all Pi's, including the new 4B, but also all the old ones.

After unpacking and writing on a (micro-)SDcard, do:

# update installed packages sudo apt-get update -y sudo apt-get upgrade -y # update your firmware sudo BRANCH=next rpi-update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Look here for instance: Then you have an idea how to store a good shrinked (micro-)SDcard image, as a backup for new trials on fresh cards. Good luck

There was also a trick to not decompress the donwloaded SDcard image on a storage media, but deflate it during writing to a fresh (micro-)SDcard, in particular if the zip file is smaller than 4 GB, and the original uncompressed image is bigger than 4 GB. The last one dows not fit on FAT. For the last you need a medium wich can handle bigger files, like an ext4 Linux partition, but NOT the more often used and limited to max 4 GB files on a FAT32 format of SDcards and USBsticks, because they can be used on more types of OSes. I.e. wirh FAT you have more exchange posibilities with other systems than Linux. The same happens with NTFS on Windows.

The unpack and write trick had to do something with piping I thought. Unluckily I did not copy that article or trick to my DownLoad directory ;-(. The other way round was also possible, i.e. get a diskimag from a real SDcard, bigger than 4 GB and store it in a zip file during compression if you are sure the total resulting zipfile wil be less than 4 GB. Using that trick combine two handlings in one go, wihout storing the in between result in a bigger than 4 GB file on an EXT4 of NTFS meda. Maybe I'll find these both combined backup and restore suring (un)zip commands somewhere again?

Henri.

Henri,

On the contrary. With less than just three months of Raspberry behind my belt I still consider myself very much a beginner. Especially whith the (wildly) different directions I've been going.

Thanks for the links though, I've filed them for later.

:-) I just noticed that unzipping the NOOBS image to disk first and than to the sd card speeds the whole process up quite a bit for me.

Regards, Rudy Wieser

Don't ever blindly do that. Only if a) you have a specific problem that b) is definitely related to firmware and c) you are sure that you want to test new, unreleased alpha firmware.

Hello Rudy and others,

I am now running Raspbian (not NOOBS) since 2012, and I feel my self even a beginner in Linux. I tried NOOBS only once ;-(. RISC OS is also available via NOOBS or by an original direct image. Since I discovered differencies between the NOOBS versions of Raspbian Linux, RISC OS and their original compleet ones, I never used NOOBS anymore. I do not like incomplete software. So I Also run RISC OS 5.24 on another Pi with !RosBink for FidoNet. I have RISC OS experience from 1987, and also their predecessor Acorn BBC B since 1984.

From a "speech to text reporter" (I am deaf) i borrowed his Linux studybooks.

Stop using NOOBS for serious tasks, and start installing Raspbian images, by the link I gave you before.

The advantage of doing decompression and writing (micro-)SDcard is: first speed, because you are combining 2 steps in one go, and second to avoid the 4 GB limit omf some storage meadia formats like FAT32. It reduces disk access and time. So I hope to find that trick agian.

Henri.