So where do you dispose of the hazardous waste?

Sealed lead acid batteries. Use up alkaline batteries. Dead LI batteries. NiCd batteries. etc.

They don't go in the trash but they are piling up in the corner.

Any stores take them?

The only spot I know about around my area is 1/2 hour drive in nasty traffic ... and they want us to dispose this stuff of properly. I'll bet that most people put them in the trash but I am not willing to go there (either place).

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Radio Shack, I think Best Buy also. JC

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Archon

My local Tesco takes them.

Gareth.

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Gareth Magennis

Round here gas stations take lead-acid cells. They get paid a few bucks for them by the recycler.

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Batteries Plus Gray Bears Valley Womens Club recycling centers The local hardware stores have plastic bags and collections boxes.

Mixed in with the trash. They're not considered hazardous.

Batteries Plus Several recycling centers. The local hardware stores have plastic bags and collections boxes.

Hazardous waste. Batteries Plus Municipal dumps have collection bins for these. The local hardware stores have plastic bags and collections boxes. Possibly Radio Shack, but I haven't asked.

Etc is not recyclable.

Since you didn't bother to disclose where you live, I guess you'll just have to use Google to find a local recycler. It's not difficult.

Then continue to collect them until you can justify the drive. The ecology will thank you.

You might ask your local garbage service if they offer curbside recycling. Our local garbage can pickup service will also deal with used oil, oil filters, batteries, and the usual household metal and plastic containers. Also ask the recyclers:

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I just put 'em in the trash. My philosophy is that anything that fits into an opaque garbage bag can be put out with the regular household garbage.

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Roger Blake

I got some hazardous insect killer I wanted to dispose of. There is one place I can take it, across town, once a year. Like hell I will.

Greg

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That's not a philosophy, it's merely an irresponsible attitude.

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RipeCrisbies

One time long ago when I was living in a converted garage, I had an ant invasion--there were tens of thousands of red ants all over the floor. I got a can of Raid, put a needle in the nozzle, taped the button down, pulled the needle, tossed it through the window, and shut the window. Then I waited a day, aired the place out, and vacuumed up the carcasses.

(ISTR that I also taped it to a board, so that it would fall with the nozzle pointing up.)

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Phil Hobbs

I ran into the same issue with old gasoline.

miss a day of work and carry it by hand to the city dump which is only open like 3 hours one every two weeks?

f*ck that.

I poured it out in the alley and on the patio.

my last jug of vacuum pump oil went into the trash. It's just mineral oil, no big deal unless you call it used vacuum pump oil and people assume it was used in to manufacture semiconductors or something else with exotic toxic nasty stuff.

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Cydrome Leader

Pump oil is usually dioctyl pthalate, AFAIK, which is a popular plasticizer due to its lowish toxicity and very low vapour pressure (which is also what makes it good pump oil).

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Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

there's many types. I use the cheap stuff, which is just mineral oil, under more exciting names like "paraffinic petroleum distillates".

the MSDS sheet for the stuff are clearly some sort of wikipedia copy and paste from somewhere else type deal, with a logo and phone number at the top.

The part I've not figured out is why or how does silicone diffusion pump oil go bad, and why does it have an expiration date on the bottle.

I even asked people at a national lab with diffusion pumps all over the place and nobody really seemed to know.

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Cydrome Leader

I didn't bother on purpose. Get it?

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BeeJ

Probably because some silicones are used in medical devices, and the FDA gets very crazy when they cannot determine expiration dates. Or calibration dates.

It also means some customers will reorder more often. I recall, however, we loaded our diffusion pump and NEVER thought of replacement of the silicone oil unless it got too dirty to pump.

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whit3rd

What were you expecting? Have the recyler send a pickup vehicle to your unspecified location? You may live in a rural area, but even those have recycling centers and municipal dumps. When you're done being so proud of trashing the environment because of your laziness, you might inquire at to their locations and services offered.

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The Dow 704 I have actually says on the bottle "NOT FOR HUMAN INJECTION!". I even wrote to Dow asking if people shoot up vacuum pump oil, and if so, why. I never heard back, but was apparently enough of a problem to put this on the labels in 2003.

How did you determine the diffusion pump was dirty? I'm still not clear on how you even drain the oil out of the one I have, other than the turn the entire thing upside down, and hope everything drips out. Do you then wash it out? Silicone oils are pretty disgusting, and I'm happy the stuff hasn't crawled out of the pump and all over the place.

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Cydrome Leader

on 10/10/2012, BeeJ supposed :

You seem to have some disability so I will not go into that.

The point was to get global input from the people reading this post where they were located so ALL others who might read this post will get ideas about how to do recycling in their area. Now do you get it?

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BeeJ

Transition metals don't go anywhere much in ground water, due to the very strong ion exchange with clay minerals. Putting batteries in landfills is pretty well entirely benign, especially since in the next

100 years all the landfills will probably be mined--they're high-grade deposits of a whole lot of things you need for a technological civilization.

Google "oklo natural reactor" for a billion-year experimental demonstration of the slowness of transition metal transport in groundwater.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

No. I re-read your original posting and find none of that included. The only question you asked was in the Subject line as: So where do you dispose of the hazardous waste? which I answered in detail in my initial reply. I didn't supply my location because you can easily find it in the signature.

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Jeff Liebermann

Yep. In a past rant, I documented the methods the EPA[1] used to prove that lead "dissolves" in acidic ground water. (I'm in a rush and can't find the specific article or EPA doc right now).

The proceedure is to test for leaching using moderately acidic water (Ph = 5.0) and to literally pulverize the glass to accellerate the leaching (See Method Phase I). As expected this yielded the worst case results at about 3 times the US limits.

Basically, they took a TV CRT, ground the glass into a powder, poured a mild acid into the ground glass, and found traces of lead in the solution. Amazing. Meanwhile, the recommended method of permanently storing radioactive sold waste is to encapsulate it in glass. More specifically, passivated glass with lead particles. Glass is good enough for radioactivity, but not good enough for sequestering lead?

Ummm... don't tell the nuclear protestors. Everything nuclear is dangerous.

[1] EPA SW846 method 1311 Toxicity Characteristic Leaching Procedure
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