Is anyone using voc free, leadfree solder in there wave process?? Like to discuss some things about it. I have 25 years in the manufacturing of printed circuits. This process is much more diffacult than they lead us to beleive.
Now there's a surprise ...
Arfa
Surprise !
Lead-free solder is junk.
Graham
Of course it is. OTOH its the stupid idea of some crackpot European beuracrats that don't know a damn thing about metallurgy, yet are busy screwing the entire world in their half assed attempt to keep any foreign electronics from being imported.
-- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
Don't you also have some pretty draconian and nonsense lead regulations over there too, Michael ? I seem to remember reading that there are regulations regarding the disposal of CRTs now due to the lead in the glass faceplate. The whole world is going mad ...
If you're not under pressure to go lead-free on your solder already, trust me, it's coming ! The whole of the far east's production for europe is now done in lead-free, and I guess they just ship the same basic products to the US also. I can't imagine them running parallel leaded and lead-free lines, and component inventories. Is the stuff that you guys are repairing now built in lead-free, and what are your experiences of it so far ? Have Sony insisted that their gear is repaired with lead-free components and solder there too ? I'm assuming that you don't have any actual legislation yet that compels you repair in lead-free ?
Arfa
One of the talking heads on the TV news was yammering on about "Every TV ever made has 27 pounds of lead in it" I have TV sets that only weigh a few ounces. Where the @#$%^ is the rest of my lead? ;-)
it turns out that when the EPA calculated the amount of lead in the glass of a CRT, they ground it to a fine powder before using acid to separate it from the dust, then multiplied the amount by a huge number. Its as phony as Global cooling/ warming/ climate change. :(
CRTs are supposed to be returned to the manufacurer, still under hard vacuum. WTH are we supposed to do we do with broken ones, or gassy tubes? I say we load all the crappy CRTS, and scrap electronics in resurrected B52 bombers and drop it on the Chinese factories that keep spewing out this crap.
No, but its getting a lot harder to find components that are tinned with real solder. I have some nice tin/lead/silver solder for the fancy work, and some older Ersin Multicore .031" 60/40 for regular work. With my current health, it looks like a lifetime supply. The equipment I worked on before becoming disabled was exempt, being that 95% of it went to government agencies around the world. If they insisted on lead free, we told them to get lost. its amazing how fast you get an exemption when they NEED your custom built equipment.
-- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
That situation is much the same here, with avionics, military and medical having exemptions. I'm not sure about civils like the emergency services. We are just going over to a 'secure' comms system here for emergency workers. I wonder which technology their new kit is built in ?
Yep, that's the method of determining the amount of lead in the glass that I read about. See ? You're closer to being like us over there, than you thought d;~} !!
On the global warming front, it's funny to see how an idea can gain momentum. 35 years ago, all the talk was of us being about to enter a new mini ice age. I remember this very clearly, as I had my town library get me in a book called "The Weather Machine, and the Threat of the Ice", that had featured in a TV programme that was on at the time.
Whilst I'm on TV programmes, there was one on over here on the station called "Channel 4" a couple of months back, called "The Great Global Warming Swindle". It really was an excellent and well made documentary, an hour and a half long, and well worth seeing if you have the slightest concerns about the validity of global warming, and its causes. This programme has caused such a furore here, that Channel 4 have now released it as a DVD. If you can get hold of a copy through Amazon or somewhere, I can really recommend it as essential viewing to get the other side of the coin, for making yourself a balanced viewpoint.
Arfa
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It's on YouTube under "The Great Global Warming Swindle". I have it as one video, but it now seems to be available only as six parts. Ian.
Water based solder would make it even more difficult :)
NT
Water based solder would make it even more difficult :)
NT
Whatever is cheapest at the moment, of course. They don't believe it will ever be needed to save their lives, so they don't give a damn.
I have nothing against most of the people of Europe, but I think they should pull their rabid dogs off-line. They give a bad impression to the rest of the world. I met a lot of tourist when I worked in Orlando about 20 years ago. Most of them were nice (Even if they were hard to understand.) but some did their absolute best to piss off every American they met.
They were ranting about "The new Ice Age!!!" when i was in grade school. All kinds of horror stories about species becoming extinct because the only habitable area would be a band about 100 miles wide at the equator. Some were even calling for massive projects to level mountains and haul them to the sea to make more land available at the equator. they were as rabid as the Global Warming crowd, and had as much bad science in their propaganda. When I pointed out that the equator doesn't stay centered under the sun they called me a troublemaker and continued to spin tales of wars where everyone wanted that thin band of land to live on.
I have no problem with real science, but most of what I hear is just wild theories. I'll see if I can find a copy of that program.
-- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
Yes, do that. I'm sure that you will enjoy it. It features many genuine scientists who hold alternative views to what's being peddled as ' the reality of global warming ' at the moment ... Ian, above, has said that it's available on YouTube so I guess that's a good place to start. If you think Europeans in america were bad 20 years ago, you want to take a look now ... As you know, I visit quite regularly, and my countrymen make me cringe, bringing their little bits of England with them ( silly soccer shirts and the like ). It's too easy and cheap to travel across the pond now, so everyone, including those who do not know how to behave in someone elses country, can afford to go. Incidentally, most people in the UK don't consider themselves to be 'Europeans', having spent hundreds of years repelling Johnny Foreigner from our shores ...
Arfa
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