flexible wire

Anyone who has ever owned a Volvo 240 wagon will know that there's one really annoying design flaw in an otherwise nearly bulletproof car. All the wiring for the rear wiper, power lock, defogger, center brake light and license plate lights passes through the hinges so that it gets bent

90 degrees each time the tailgate is opened resulting in a need to replace the tailgate wiring harnesses about once every 5 years. I've seen some people wire around the hinges but that just looks tacky to me. I'm curious if there's any modern super flexible wire out there that can hold up to this repeated flexing? 18 AWG is fine, none of them carry a particularly high current. There's room for a bundle about the diameter of a pencil through each hinge. Ideas?
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James Sweet
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Twist up, in a drill, 6 strands or so of long lengths of 30-35AWG/35-40SWG or so gauge and cut into 3. Plait up those 3 lengths and then cut in 3 and plait together the 3 lengths of that intermediate. Keeping the "flat" side in the same sense which will be the sense through which the hinge action takes place.

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N_Cook

**Multi-Contact make a VERY tough, very flexible, 512 strand, silicon sheathed wire which will last the distance. Farnell carry it. You may need to buy quite a bit though.
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Trevor Wilson

Silicone test lead wire. High current and very flexible. Something like this:-

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    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
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Dave Plowman (News)

Hmm, interesting, ok, I should specify though, anything I can get in the US? Farnell may be willing to ship over here, but there's gotta be something local.

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James Sweet

Have you thoought about replacing it with a wireless door jam like they use on many sliding doors on mini vans?

Mike

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Michael Kennedy

Could probably be done, but I'm sure it would require some fabrication and bodywork, it'd be easier to just replace the wiring harnesses every few years.

I'll look into test lead wire, might hold up ok.

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James Sweet

Imagine a steel whire that is constantly flexed at one point.

----------------- ^ Now imagine the same wire whose flex point is made into a helix.

----(((((((((---- ^ The stress is spread out and fatigue is greatly reduced. This sort of thing is done all the time on glass doors / burglar alarms and by musicians (guitarists' coily cords).

Use RTV to have the coily part retain its form. Use multi-filar windings as required. No need to even change the existing color code.

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JeffM

**Here in Australia, we use this thing called 'Google'.

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It is brilliant. You can find pretty much anything you want. Anyway, type in 'farnell us' into the little box. From that you get a link to:

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Trevor Wilson

Thanks smartass.

I figured I'd search for the product when I get home, unless someone knew of a particularly good place to get it. I get sick of these snide "google it" replies, if you don't have a helpful answer, don't reply at all. Half the time Google is useless from all the stupid sites that hook searches and lead to unrelated crap, particularly if you don't know the general name of what you're looking for, and for many things that varies by region.

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James Sweet

But you've been told what to use - and since you don't say where you live, Google is an excellent way of finding where to buy it.

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Dave Plowman (News)

This is just a tailgate problem ?

Use silicone insulated wire like used in test leads but make sure you protect it well with an overall sleeve.

Graham

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Eeyore

Silicone if I may be so bold.

It's excellent stuff.

Don't forget additional PVC sheathing.

Graham

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Eeyore

Just learn to refine the 'search terms' and all that crap will go away. It just needs a bit of intelligence, that's all.

For example did you know you can use a minus term in the search ? Such as

-f****it ?

Graham

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Eeyore

His email addy says 'trashmail', so I guess he lives in a trash can ?

Graham

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Eeyore

If you bothered to check out trashmail.net, you'd find that it's an email forwarding service. After my previous email account become so flooded with spam that it was nearly unusable, I set up a number of disposable forwarding accounts to my new one. If I start getting a bunch of spam on one, I can kill it and switch to another while still maintaining the same private email account.

Unlike some, this is not completely anonymous, nor is it munged in any way. Send an email to the trashmail address and it will land in my inbox.

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James Sweet

-f****it

Yes I'm well aware of how to use Google, I've been using it since it first appeared on the scene. I only asked because I thought someone might happen to think "hey I know just the thing, I bought some from...." and save the searching and guesswork, failing that, I'll find it myself. Apparently people would rather make snide remarks rather than being helpful of keeping quiet.

Either way, I found what I needed, to the rest of you, forget I even asked.

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James Sweet

People say google it when they don't know the answer to your question, but they think it is easy to find on a search engine. I think people like this participate on Usenet just to annoy the people with questions. I think if you don't want to answer questions you shouldn't bother to participate on Usenet.

I don't know where to find this wire and I'm sure that there are other people don't either. It would be beneficial to the entire community to have this knowledge... ie. the purpose of Usenet from the beginning.

Mike

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Michael Kennedy

Just get a GMail account. I use it without munging all the time. I get thousands of spam messages piling up in my spam folder, but I can't remember the last time that a spam message reached by inbox.

Cheers, Nicholas Sherlock

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Nicholas Sherlock

So why do you behave like such a shit ? A Hotmail addy works for me.

Graham

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Eeyore

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