Apple throttled your iPhone by cutting its speed almost in HALF!

Sure, but if Apple did NOT reduce consumption somewhere as the battery aged, you would complain that the iPhone battery didn't survive the warranty period or operate the advertised number of hours.

What I find disgusting is that Apple did not make the feature optional and controlled in the settings.

When we're done complaining about the evil Apple, we can then switch our focus to the evil Google, which extends runtime and battery life by disabling display intensive features and reducing OLED display brightness if it detects a weak battery. See the "Summary" section. The phone still works, but all the fancy features are disabled and you can't see what you're doing (only red LED's are active). This might be a serious problem for someone on Viagra, who's vision is shifted towards blue, and doesn't see any red.

Cutting features to enhance battery life is nothing new. Palm has a patent for saving battery power by switching from battery guzzling color, to a more economical monochrome: "Method and Apparatus for Selectable Display Mode for Intelligently Enhancing Battery Life"

Meanwhile, Intel offers CPU's that self-throttle if they draw too much power, get too hot, or are in danger of turning off before the end of the movie or big game. Most of the technology was inherited from Transmeta: "Adaptive power control"

I'm sure if I dig some more, I'll find other patents for ways to generate longer battery life numbers at the expense of other features.

Hmmm... my battery is low and old. Maybe that's why I'm losing at Solitaire?

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Apple phones are very much aimed at people that know nothing about technology and don't want to learn. They're idiot proofed partly by key useful features not being available. One can criticise them, but tbh I reckon they know their market.

NT

He who is Jeff Liebermann said on Wed, 27 Dec 2017 08:48:50 -0800:

Fair enough observation but the Materials Science experts seem to be inferring a different take on that same sentiment, by stating that Apple batteries were sold with intolerable (and unadvertised) performance decay.

They "clearly came with intolerable performance decay." says The Verge.

Lawsuits argue Apple had to keep the permanent throttling to far less than half the advertised speeds (from 1,400MHz to 600MHz) secret if the reason was they didn't want to honor warranty claims.

This is only related if it was done secretly, permanently, and drastically.

Is this slowdown drastic (far more than half the advertised speeds)? Is it secret? Is it permanent (for any given battery)?

As of December 11th, 2017, that problem may increase!

Is this slowdown drastic (far more than half the advertised speeds)? Is it secret? Is it permanent (for any given battery)?

Is this slowdown drastic (far more than half the advertised speeds)? Is it secret? Is it permanent (for any given battery)?

IF they're not secret, permanent, and drastic (throttled to far less than half the claimed CPU speeds), then they're relevant.

Otherwise they're just red herrings.

Nope. It's why that huge power outage a week ago by PG&E was caused by the winds coming from the north instead of from the south like they usually do where you live!

Seriously though ... since you are generally old-school and balanced, do you really consider Apple's secret, permanent, and drastic (the cpu is chopped to far less than half the claimed speeds) is equivalent to a temporary, slight, and obvious slowdown?

Really?

Even the unsophisticated user can tell when his phone is getting slow. Many people will then trade it in not knowing this could easily be fixed.

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He who is harry newton said on Wed, 27 Dec 2017 17:05:03 +0000 (UTC):

Apple basically admitted today they permanently chopped CPU speeds in half because they were trying to secretly mask defective batteries that they didn't want to pay for in-warranty claims.

December 28, 2017 A Message to Our Customers about iPhone Batteries and Performance

They desperately try to convince Apple gullibles that all batteries require the need to be secretly, drastically, and permanently throttled (to half the original CPU speeds) with this clever marketing document posing as an engineering white paper.

iPhone Battery and Performance

Basically, what they say is that all batteries degrade but only Apple cares enough about its customers to secretly, permanently, and drastically cut the CPU performance in half.

The rest of the manufacturers simply replace defective batteries under warranty. But Apple didn't want to honor the warranty claims.

Even now, they're *still* charging the customer $30 for what amounts to a defective battery. After the end of 2018, you're f***ed again.

The phones affected after iOS 10.2.1 are: iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone SE, iPhone 7, and iPhone 7 (after iOS 11.2)

The secret is never to update iOS and this wouldn't have happened to you.

Wait, what?

Cyanopsia or blue tinted vision

Executive summary: Viagra makes your world blue because an enzyme that regulates activity in your crotch happens to be very similar to an enzyme that regulates activity in your eyes.

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I had a customer phone me today asking if I could find her a cheap used iPhone 6 for her daughter, who was complaining that her iPhone 5 was "worn out". No sooner had she read that Apple was slowing down older phones to preserve battery life, the daughter magically discovered that her phone was suffering from "a slow battery" and the phone was in need of an upgrade. This might eventually be beneficial to Apple sales.

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This is the same troll with the smoke machine and the BMW.

Don't feed the troll.

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He who is Jeff Liebermann said on Thu, 28 Dec 2017 20:34:09 -0800:

So the plumbing in the crotch opens up the world to your eyes?

Anyway, Jeff - did you read the fantastically *cleverly worded* apology from Apple yesterday?

December 28, 2017 A Message to Our Customers about iPhone Batteries and Performance

What you have to admire is how utterly *cleverly* worded the "apology" is.

Just like a smart kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar, they are clever in what they admit and what they don't admit even though everyone knows they did it, not for the planned obsolescence (that was just a bonus), but because they put the wrong battery in the wrong phone and didn't want to honor the warranty.

Like all Apple Apologists, they can't come clean.

So they essentially apologized for the "misunderstanding". Heh heh.

They apologize for the "mis communication", heh heh...

And then they try to say all kids have their hands caught in the cookie jar, with their idiotic white paper on batteries - which completely skirts the issue that no other manufacturer on the planet was caught secretly,

*permanently*, and *drastically* cutting the CPU speeds (in half!).

The fact you can replace a defective battery for $38 after January still doesn't solve the problem that they're the wrong batteries for the phones.

I *love* their clever apology - which literally screams they didn't do it for planned obsolescence (they didn't - that was just a bonus) - and yet - completely skirts the real reason they did it - which was they didn't want to honor their battery warranty.

Since it's *still* the wrong battery for the phone, it's still a crime (literally) that they force you to pay even $38 for a new battery.

Not only should the defective batteries be replaced for free, but, one year after you put the new defective battery in the phone, you're f***ed again.

I only speak fact.

Interesting, never knew about that side effect. I'll report back my empirical findings after the upcoming New Year's weekend

At this point, I would normally scribble a variety of sexually explicit observations and suggestions. However, this is a family newsgroup and such things are unfortunately deemed unacceptable.

Technical details: I'm told that it's not a "blue shift" but rather a "blue tint". Also, the color varies but is generally considered to be cyan (between blue and green) and not blue.

Full disclosure: I've never noticed the blue tint effect, probably because I was too busy and distracted at the time.

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And all this time I thought I was looking through the world with rose-tinted glasses!

If it takes slowing down the Apple so the battery will last, the battery is not meeting the standard. I can see it slowing down after the battery has lasted as long as it is warranted to. There should be some mention of that in the book that comes with it.

Seems that would be equal to a car that will only go 40 MPH after it gets say 30,000 miles on it and is warrentied for 50,000.

He who is Ralph Mowery said on Sat, 30 Dec 2017 23:08:57 -0500:

This article backs up your feelings.

Apple Deserves What It Gets From This Battery Fiasco

Apple iOS 11.2.5 Release: It's A Big One

Verbatim quotes: "We expect the iPhone X to be throttled in late 2018 with replacement batteries for it back to full price by January 2019."

"Samsung guarantees 95% battery capacity retention for the first two years of ownership. Meanwhile LG and Google offer two year warranties, which also cover the battery."

"Apple's promise of a limited time price reduction (11 months) on new iPhone batteries doesn't cut it, particularly with the swap taking three days and no further pledge from Apple to change anything going forward."

"Apple has admitted it slows iPhones - and coincidentally just after the release of each new generation - to protect their already degrading batteries from shutting off if the phone were to continue operating at full performance."

"Not only does the well promoted title of Performance Champ suddenly ring hollow now we know this *only lasts for one year*, but we also know this behaviour isn't normal. HTC, Motorola, LG and Samsung are among the major brands quick to stress they see no reason to throttle the performance of their smartphones."

Sometimes so-called 'Big Tech' is like that.

"exprect" is the keyword here. Speculation by some snews media. This is not a statement from Apple and thus useless.

The product development of the X was done with knowl;edge of the batterty problems for the 6s. So it is possible that it was fixed or significantly reduced.

He who is JF Mezei said on Tue, 2 Jan 2018 01:14:13 -0500:

I think that's wishful thinking (sans facts) for two big reasons:

1. What you hope goes diametrically against what Apple actually said.
2. Apple didn't change their power-hungry single-threaded architecture.

Backing up those two facts is this recent article: Apple Won't Stop Throttling iPhone Performance

That article clearly says Apple "won't stop" throttling of *all* newer iPhones after about one year to about half their original CPU speeds.

Hence, the article makes the same claim that I do which is that Apple iPhones effectively cost a *lot* more than just the sticker price:

"The effective cost of buying an Apple device is significantly higher than it used to be, at least for people who keep their hardware more than a year"

And, the article reiterates that Apple outright lied to its customers:

"Apple acknowledges that it failed to properly inform users about the changes made in iOS 10.2.1 and the introduction of this throttling."

Interesting fact, since the Apple Apologists still deny what Apple already admitted. Another fact that the Apple Apologists will hate is that this is an Apple-only problem.

"Apple tries to dodge responsibility for its own smartphone designs" "This is an Apple-only issue."

Everyone (but the Apple Apologists) already knew that this problem is an Apple-created Apple-design problem, where *all* the major Android manufacturers have gone on record publicy asserting

"Android phones do not perform this kind of throttling".

What's more interesting than that is where this article goes into decent detail on the one thing that's different about Apple design: "Single-threaded performance is the one area where Apple clearly stands alone."

Interesting. The article posits that the Apple single-threaded design might be the main reason why Apple batteries can't handle their phones:

"there's a strong relationship between power consumption and architecture"

In summary, it's purely wishful thinking that Apple won't throttle *all* their latest iPhones after one year because:

1. Apple themselves clearly said they'd throttle all their newest iPhones.
2. Apple didn't change their power-hungry single-threaded architecture.

Remember, this is an Apple-caused Apple-designed Apple-only problem, despite nospam's clever hands-caught-in-the-cookie jar Apple Apologists' attempt at saying Android manufacturers also *secretly*, *permanently*, and

*drastically* throttle CPU speeds of their phones after only one year of ownership.

Everthing I state is a fact.