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Re: 8yr old Satellite dish planninig permission madness

This kind of petty crap really winds people up, me included, there are loads of dishes around in our village and I don't know of one who has ever applied for planning, yet there are some really big planning abuses that Caradon do nothing about. I suppose its easier to pick on a

60 year old woman with an 8 yr old satellite dish. I've told her to put in a Freedom of Information request asking for details of ALL satellite dish planning applications submitted within Caradon in the last 8 years, and information on what action they have taken against those householders who haven't requested planning permission, that should put the cat amongst the pigeons.

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I thought I'd be constructive by directing you to a product that was demonstrated on "Tomorrow's World" in early days of satellite TV (BBC TV prog on gadgetry that has long since passed over). It was a Fresnel lens of rings of foil on a carrier that you stuck to a south facing window and put the receiver horn at the focus inside the room. You had to give the company your latitude and longitude and what satellite and the direction faced by your window and the asymmetric rings would be constructed for your situation. But I can find no reference to it as a product. Someone posted a tradename Mawzone but nothing known, anyone know if it was a scam like this one

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Perhaps with the "Mawzone" you had to change your window glass to something more like the Fylingdale mushroom covers. Anyone on s.e.m know what I'm on about?
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for SETI doesn't look promising. Is there a commercial product based on this?

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Paul Nutteing
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I believe she should apply for a "certificate of lawfulness" on the grounds that the "unauthorised structure" has been there for more than four years. She will need to prove this. Has she got a bill for the original installation? How about an old photo of the house? Old Sky bill?

Note that planning decisions are SUBJECTIVE where as COL is OBJECTIVE. In other words a retrospective planning application could be refused because the dish is "ugly" where as a COL can only be decided on fact.

Some info here..

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I know exactly how you feel. I've had my own planning problems and will no doubt face this exact same one in a few months

Good luck

Colin (colin.watters@turnersoakNO*SPAM.plus.com remove "NO*SPAM")

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CWatters

Not in a conservation area. The rules are different.

Peter Crosland

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Peter Crosland

Thanks for that. I've not been able to find anything on the web that says the four year rule doesn't apply in a conservation area. Can you expand a bit?

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CWatters

Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990 ...

2) Subsection (3) of section 63 of the principal Act (references to applications for planning permission to include applications for permission to retain existing works and uses) does not apply to the construction of this section. 
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Sue
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Palindr☻me

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Thanks Sue but if this is the right act...

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I can only find the paragraph you quoted in subsecton 67 and that appears to relate to listed buildings not conservation areas....

67.-(1) This section applies where an application for planning permission for any development of land is made to a local planning authority and the development would, in the opinion of the authority, affect the setting of a listed building.

(8) Subsection (3) of section 63 of the principal Act (references to applications for planning permission to include applications for permission to retain existing works and uses) does not apply to the construction of this section.

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CWatters

Section 67 deals with listed buildings in this respect, section 73 of "General Duties of Planning Authority." deals with conservation areas, and says as much. The principal act being the Town and Country Planning Act 1990.

In any event, there is no automatic right to the approval of a certificate of lawfulness - there is only provision for a request for certification based on the time that has elapsed. The decision still rests with the Planning Authority.

I do strongly endorse the views expressed by others - far better to negotiate what will be allowed than fight this one. They may be entirely mistaken about the size, colour, location and visibility of this dish. They may allow it to stay, subject to a splash of paint. They may just want it moved a little away from the front aspect. If it can't be put elsewhere, they may easily not be aware of that. Caradon Planning has a reputation for a much more flexible attitude than its neighbour, my planning body, Dartmoor National Park..

I do have a certain sympathy with them - dishes and aerials are best kept out of sight. The Holy Land, with the skyline of its towns and cities a mass of television aerials on poles, shows what lack of control brings..

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Sue
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Palindr☻me

Hi Sue,

Thanks for all the good info. I agree with you that compromise is the best route - it's just nice to know sometimes if you are negotiating from a position of strength.. Looks like the OP is out of luck this time.

In my case I'm going to have to find a way to hide a sat dish in a paddock as there are too many trees in the line of site nearer the house.

Colin

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CWatters

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