Desoldering question

I started doing hobby electronics again fairly recently, and recycling/ scavenging is a big draw for me. As it happens, my company throws away lots of useful stuff, and over the past year I've brought home lots of circuit boards with various useful parts on them.

I've got a solder sucker and solder wick/braid, but components with more than two or three leads continue to be a problem for me. I have a little soldering station with a soldering iron, but I've been thinking that I probably need some hot tweezers or a heat gun of some kind. Most of the stuff that I'm recovering from these boards are through- hole components ... I haven't graduated to SMT-at-home just yet.

I don't mind springing for the right tools, but I don't want to buy something only to find that it still isn't very effective.

I'd like to hear from the folks that do a significant amount of this kind of thing (desoldering), and which tools/methods they favor.

Thanks!

Mr. INTJ San Diego, CA

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Mr. INTJ
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It's been a while, but I remember an Ungar screw-in tip that hit all the pins of a 16-pin DIP at once. Usually though, a spring-loaded solder sucker would remove almost all of the solder from each pin, leaving such a small area of contact that it could be broken with a sharp probe. For cheap SSI parts, a heat gun is probably best, though I never had one.

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Stephen J. Rush

Well there's no substitute for a de-solder tool (manual or vacuum). If you have a Weller TCP, I think there's an accesory for it. There's still a knack to it though.

Graham

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Eeyore

Use the solder wick on multipin items just wick the bottom of the board and then wiggle the pins to be sure that they are loose. When you are using surface mount multipin items use the solder wick on top of the pins and then touch each one with the iron tip and lift the pin off the surface with a small tool. You must be careful not to over heat the pin... you know where it goes and the over heating of the connector wires from the pin to the chip element is a very bad thing.

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stubblef

While you are completely right, it is normally not very critical. When the board was assembled, the entire component was probably immersed in molten solder for a couple of seconds.

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RoRo
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Robert Roland

it's a lot of work for little gain. but it's a game I've played too.

those tools aren't really suited to scavenging, more to repair.

get a propane blow torch, a box, and some safety glasses

heat a section of the board until the solder is liquid an then bang it on the edge of the box, repeat until the solder/components come of.

the trick is to heat rapidly so the heat doesn't have time to damage the components.

I find with the the fibreglass boards with plate-thru holes you need to heat until the layers just start to separate. (you hear a popping sound)

the boards will be destroyed in this process but you're after the parts right?

probably best to do this outside, or in the garage: all sorts of evil smelling fumes come out of the overheated fibreglass resin, and solder droplets stick to synthetic carpet real well.

another way is to cut the board up with a hacksaw or side cutters and then extract the pins one at a time

Bye. Jasen

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Jasen Betts

If only the components are important, and not the board itself, then a propane torch with a fan head can work. Wave the flame over the back until the solder liquefies, whack the board on the workbench, then chase after all the parts that just popped out. Beware of flying molten solder. Whacking the board inside a (non-flammable) box helps to keep the parts and the solder drops corralled, of course.

If both the components and the board are important (or you want to practice for when they may be), you will find that, after you've wicked or sucked all easily accessible solder from a multi-pin object, it's still held fast to the board by the multiple tiny solder points. What can be helpful is to briefly reheat each pin with a clean iron and then nudge the pin with a dental probe or knife blade towards the center of the hole as the iron is removed and the solder cools. Often a brief touch with the iron is all that's needed and you can go down a row of pins very quickly,

As regards SMT, it's really not that difficult (often easier than through hole); it just looks intimidating, at first. There are several tutorials on the web. A good place to start is the tutorial section over at

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Rich Webb     Norfolk, VA
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Rich Webb

I have all the tools to do this, but since I hardly use it the Weller sucker it gets all messed up leaving it on. Its a major effort to reclean the tip. Regardless, the recommended method of removal is to cut all the pins first, and removing many components with intact leads is a chore. I can't live without solder wick, fresh, or freshly refluxed. Get a liquid flux pen and apply to pins regardless of tool.

greg

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GregS

A PACE pedair :-) And at least one spare handle because the unit sucks much faster than the solder can cool down. I don't mind a coffee break but I hate it when I need to take a break, just because the desoldering device got too hot to handle.

I guess the beast has been replaced by

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(And I doubt if you like its pricetag :-)

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Kind regards,
Gerard Bok
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Gerard Bok

Hobby Lobby (the craft folks, not the radio control guys) has a hot air tool for embossing (less than $20) that will melt solder in its air blast. Be careful, I can see all kinds of danger with this thing! John Ferrell W8CCW

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John Ferrell

If the device is dead )or low cost) you simply cut every pin and them remove the debris pin by pin. The PCB is 10000 x more valuable than a dead bug.

Graham

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Eeyore

Try desoldering it in a couple of seconds and see how many tracks lift, PTHs break etc etc.

Graham

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Eeyore

Useful to whom ? If you're just hoarding forget it. I generally won't ever use recycled semiconductors anyway. Too risky.

Graham

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Eeyore

Wave solder is stamdard. boards are pre-heated and then go surfing... so to speak. But a percentage don't come through it alive... they must be re-animated. To borrow one from the Cthulster. Any way its best to be careful. Also with your primary tool... fingers.

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stubblef

Yes. And the temperature and time of the solder wave or hot-air reflow was controlled to stay within the limits of the parts.

John Nagle

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John Nagle

I used a propane torch, till I found out the an electric paintstripper give a more controllable heat. Watch out for all the SMD resistors and transistors blown around ;-) I still have to remove heavy leaded component from multilayer boards with a biggish (60 Watt) soldering iron.

Wim

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Wim Ton

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