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Re: Original (5V) Xilinx Spartan ?
Peter,
My understanding was that those pictures were of Xilinx parts. Of course if
you sample them at a low enough rate, it looks like an unpredictable delay
even if it is not.
Peter Alfke wrote:

My understanding was that those pictures were of Xilinx parts. Of course if
you sample them at a low enough rate, it looks like an unpredictable delay
even if it is not.
Peter Alfke wrote:

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Re: Original (5V) Xilinx Spartan ?
I talked with Phil, and he mentioned that his metastability tests that
generated the figures showing some oscillation were actually done with
Xilinx XC4000 devices. So I stand corrected. If this type of behavior
still exists in Virtex ( and I do not have Phil's sophisticated trigger
set-up ), then I might have underreported the delay by up to a factor of
2. This should not be a real problem, since we are really talking about
much larger orders of magnitude, like millions and billions of years.
But yes, I was wrong in claiming that CMOS latches cannot oscillate for
one period...
Eating humble pie,
Peter Alfke
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Ray Andraka wrote:

generated the figures showing some oscillation were actually done with
Xilinx XC4000 devices. So I stand corrected. If this type of behavior
still exists in Virtex ( and I do not have Phil's sophisticated trigger
set-up ), then I might have underreported the delay by up to a factor of
2. This should not be a real problem, since we are really talking about
much larger orders of magnitude, like millions and billions of years.
But yes, I was wrong in claiming that CMOS latches cannot oscillate for
one period...
Eating humble pie,
Peter Alfke
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Ray Andraka wrote:


Re: Original (5V) Xilinx Spartan ?
Avnet has some of them in stock - but they are expensive. Does anyone
know of a comprehensive site for obsolete Xilinx part numbers (I used to
remember where the obsolete - EOL - parts were listed on the xilinx web
page). I would guess they are not makeing many, so die fab time is
expensive and the parts are thus expensive - I can't find a LTB notice
at http://www.xilinx.com/bvdocs/notifications/chronology.pdf , so I would
guess that they are still making them.
Also, does anyone know who they sell their dies to - Rochester?
Andrew
Jon Elson wrote:

know of a comprehensive site for obsolete Xilinx part numbers (I used to
remember where the obsolete - EOL - parts were listed on the xilinx web
page). I would guess they are not makeing many, so die fab time is
expensive and the parts are thus expensive - I can't find a LTB notice
at http://www.xilinx.com/bvdocs/notifications/chronology.pdf , so I would
guess that they are still making them.
Also, does anyone know who they sell their dies to - Rochester?
Andrew
Jon Elson wrote:

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