old xilinx components

Hello,

What tools do I need for changing an outsourced dising from a 3020A to a

3030A Xilinx device (the 3020A is obsolete).

I only have a XNF netlist available.

Thanks

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Vanheesbeke Stefaan
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I just checked that I can compile an 'Logic Assembler' source file until .BIT using Foundation 1.5i for the P&R

I guess that you can run Foundation implementation on the XNF as well.

The 'ISE Classics' that are available from Xilinx website do not support

3030A

Antti

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Antti Lukats

Are you changing the design, or just migrating from one device size to another? I would have thought that if the 3020A was unavailable, the

3030A would also be unavailable

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If you are not changing the design, then this is a simple edit of this file where the part number is specified. Look for a line like this:

PART, 3020APC84-100

and change it to

PART, 3030APC84-100

then re-run place and route and bitstream generate.

If you are changing the design as well, then this will make a very difficult project, extremely difficult. As this is all you have, you will have to edit this netlist, which can be done, but it was never designed for.

While this may not be what you want to hear, you may be better off figuring out your desired function, and starting a new design with current products. This is not easy either, as you probably have existing boards, and everything runs at 5V . There are no current products that will fit into the old footprint of the 3020A, and almost none of the current products tolerate 5V.

Good luck,

Philip

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Philip Freidin

Hi... I am having a quite similar issue... I am using FPGA board Gigilent XS10... with xilinx spartan FPGA.XCS10... I used FS 1.5e and FS2.1E... But then I downloaded web pack 6.xx. Surpeise was that this version didnot supported Spartan XCS10, not even Spartan -II.... I wish Xilinx Management should think on that, although they have made the components obsolete, but poor people like us are still learning on the same... Well then... what to do next... What i did was a little nasty.... Webpack 6.xx supported Vertex - II... And so did previous version FS

3.3 (which a good man donated me). I made my design in 6.xx on device V-II, opened the project in FS 3.3 and then changed the device to Spartan XCS10-PC84..... It worked... Just remenber that keep the gate count under final target device.... and configure the pinouts in each implementation repeatedly..... If u have XNF file it should work... but can you send me little more detail on versions... I am a little shaky in understanding your requirements. At the end... While implementing a Servo control I have lost 8 I/O pins of my FPGA. And this was the only piece that I had. Still some pins are working but if some one can tell me about Availability of XCS10 Spartan FPGA or Can donate it, because i have only one FPGA and only one development board. And if there is an angle which can donate me a new better FPGA or development board, I would be thanful thanx Thanx
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JASH

The bad thing is that we need a last production batch of 500 pieces for spare parts, the project is dead already for some time ...

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Vanheesbeke Stefaan

Somebody has some of the old parts up for auction on eBay, if you are interested:

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Derek

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DerekSimmons

If you only need 500 parts, one last time, and never again, have you checked all the "obsolete parts specialists"? There are outfits that have huge stocks of old Xilinx parts. I don't use parts this old, but still use some 5 V original Spartan chips, and these outfits have been quite helpful. Highmont in Australia was the last outfit I used.

Jon

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Jon Elson

Wow! This is an amazing discovery! I've been using a 1997 or so version of ISE so I can keep support of the old 5V parts.

Jon

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Jon Elson

You can also try syracusesemiconductors.com or call them at

603-897 1280 and ask for Joe. Very helpful guy. Peter Alfke
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Peter Alfke

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