Re: Securing TE to the bench?

In a defense plant where you had to empty your pockets to get into the building?

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Michael A. Terrell
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I can't imagine they changed much over time. I'm not sure how they were wired back to a controller. RS-422 maybe?

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Cydrome Leader

It's good to keep the security people running around. My issue with people too lazy to even close is door is you know they never lock the screen of their computers, and have to have laptops and leave them all over the place. I used to send out "lunch is on me" group emails from unsecure computers. It was suggested I just start typing letters of resignation to HR instead.

In this case, it wasn't a cell number I gave them or the place I was working for. This was in the era when people wore belts with multiple pages and cell phones. Anyways, they were awake and did their job properly.

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Cydrome Leader

From mechanical, to electronic. Either that or RS-485.

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Michael A. Terrell

Is there enough heat for the government workers to take a break from taking breaks and actually, lift themselves out of a chair and actually do some work?

Probably not is my guess.

It doesn't require brightness. But unless you leave your ID at the counter or just made a withdrawl from your own account, you're probably going to get away with it.

Hell, you can search for bankrobbers by their nicknames:

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Of course the site is completely broken, search doesn't work and it shows no robberies in Chicago at all. This website must have cost at least $10million to get to the point it is at now.

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Cydrome Leader

"Dust" from (unused) toilet paper; finely ground salt/sugar from the cafeteria; thin film of soap (from bathroom sinks); etc.

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Don Y

So the funky keypards are properly called "scramble keypads" or "scrable pads". Schlage bought somebody that made them and it looks like Hirsch also makes them too.

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Cydrome Leader

I've worked defense half my career and have never had my pockets checked. In fact, most of the places I worked I had to open a brief case, but the women didn't have to open their purses. But the real problem were the people who had access without supervision... like the maintenance or cleaning crews. One place I worked responded to the theft of a PC (back in the early days when they were boat anchors) by starting to search briefcases, lol. Clearly the PC didn't walk out in a briefcase.

Theft is easy if you give it a little thought.

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rickman

Donut glaze perhaps.

Security used in diamond mining is interesting.

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Spehro Pefhany

+42

But, the important take-away is *security* is HARD -- especially because most folks don't give it the thought that is required!

I think it takes a different mindset to be able to seek out flaws and vulnerabilities. For folks who *implicitly* try to "comply/conform" these sorts of things probably seem "unreal" ("Why would anyone want to do *that*?") They probably rule out possibilities as "unlikely" or "impractical" without ever aggressively exploring them!

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Don Y

Actually, take the *opposite* approach -- wipe the buttons impeccably clean! Then, count on the oils from the user's fingertips to adhere talc, graphite dust (pencil shavings), etc. to the buttons that have been touched. (you wouldn't want to use graphite BEFOREhand as that would leave the user wondering why his fingertips were grey...)

I found casinos to be the *most* interesting. There, a strained expectation of "proper/legal behavior" is in place -- yet you know both sides distrust each other (and themselves!). And, adversaries have a pretty good idea of the types of mechanisms that are employed by the host -- so, already have had to "step up their game" beyond that of simple/brute-force attacks.

Think of it... you have access by The General Public (not just a set of pre-screened employees -- diamond miners in your example). You can't realistically SEARCH each person entering/leaving the premises (at least, not *visibly*!). And, you want folks to feel WELCOME and WILLING TO LINGER. Couple that with the fact that casinos are designed to be the main thoroughfare through the facility:

- want to go to a show? you need to pass through the casino

- want to exit the building? proceed through the casino

- want to get something to eat? casino, again etc.

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Don Y

eg: sugar powder off a stick of gum. (or manufactured from supplies taken from the coffee machine)

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Jasen Betts

There were no coffee machines on the production floor. No food or snacks were allowed on the production floor. The rest rooms had liquid soap. Being seen standing near any of the security doors was enough to have you hauled into the security office. One of the guards accused me of stealing a 'GRC106, complete'. That was a half pallet load of equipment and hardware. None were missing, and the fool had claimed that I carried out over 600 pounds in my shirt pocket.

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Michael A. Terrell

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