Magnavox ZV450MW8A Remote Control Fix?

I have had this DVD/VCR combo unit for over 3 years now, and would like = to find out if anyone has found a 3rd party remote control that can be = used with it, or if the factory has a remote with upgraded software.

The device is top quality and the manual is excellent, but the remote is = so complicated and non-intuitive that if you don't use it every day, you = have to go back to the manual, even after this long time.

The manual does leave out some basic steps -- like how to set the record = speed (which they call "mode"). I'm fairly good with electronics = (servicing industrial electronics is my business) and took me a good = year before I could make basic settings without looking it up.

Most of the features can't be done from the device and must be done via = the remote control which is cryptic. It has way too many buttons, even = for a combo unity, and has tiny labels that can't be read in a darkened = room. If you hit a wrong button, sometimes it is impossible to figure = out how to return the device to normal use without digging out the = manual again. My manual is well worn and has many notes scribbled in it = now.

One problem is that when you are using the timer, you have to turn the = device off and on with a button other than the ON/OFF button. If your = lovely wife comes in and used ON/OFF, it disables the timer, and must be = reset again with the special non-ON/OFF button.

It is a real shame that such a fine device from a good manufacturer has = such a poor user interface. A better designed remote would completely = change the usability.

Bob

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find out if anyone has found a 3rd party remote control that can be used with it, or if the factory has a remote with upgraded software.

complicated and non-intuitive that if you don't use it every day, you have to go back to the manual, even after this long time.

(which they call "mode"). I'm fairly good with electronics (servicing industrial electronics is my business) and took me a good year before I could make basic settings without looking it up.

remote control which is cryptic. It has way too many buttons, even for a combo unity, and has tiny labels that can't be read in a darkened room. If you hit a wrong button, sometimes it is impossible to figure out how to return the device to normal use without digging out the manual again. My manual is well worn and has many notes scribbled in it now.

off and on with a button other than the ON/OFF button. If your lovely wife comes in and used ON/OFF, it disables the timer, and must be reset again with the special non-ON/OFF button.

poor user interface. A better designed remote would completely change the usability.

Wrong newsgroup. This is a test equipment newsgroup. You want news:sci.electronics.repair.

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Michael A. Terrell

find out if anyone has found a 3rd party remote control that can be used with it, or if the factory has a remote with upgraded software.

complicated and non-intuitive that if you don't use it every day, you have to go back to the manual, even after this long time.

speed (which they call "mode"). I'm fairly good with electronics (servicing industrial electronics is my business) and took me a good year before I could make basic settings without looking it up.

remote control which is cryptic. It has way too many buttons, even for a combo unity, and has tiny labels that can't be read in a darkened room. If you hit a wrong button, sometimes it is impossible to figure out how to return the device to normal use without digging out the manual again. My manual is well worn and has many notes scribbled in it now.

off and on with a button other than the ON/OFF button. If your lovely wife comes in and used ON/OFF, it disables the timer, and must be reset again with the special non-ON/OFF button.

a poor user interface. A better designed remote would completely change the usability.

Michael... Careful you posted your reply to the wrong groups too!

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PeterD

find out if anyone has found a 3rd party remote control that can be used with it, or if the factory has a remote with upgraded software.

complicated and non-intuitive that if you don't use it every day, you have to go back to the manual, even after this long time.

speed (which they call "mode"). I'm fairly good with electronics (servicing industrial electronics is my business) and took me a good year before I could make basic settings without looking it up.

remote control which is cryptic. It has way too many buttons, even for a combo unity, and has tiny labels that can't be read in a darkened room. If you hit a wrong button, sometimes it is impossible to figure out how to return the device to normal use without digging out the manual again. My manual is well worn and has many notes scribbled in it now.

device off and on with a button other than the ON/OFF button. If your lovely wife comes in and used ON/OFF, it disables the timer, and must be reset again with the special non-ON/OFF button.

such a poor user interface. A better designed remote would completely change the usability.

No. I added the proper group.

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Michael A. Terrell

The problem, Guv Bob, is not so much in the remote control, but in the unit's firmware, which requires such confusing operation. Many products are designed with no concern whatever as to how people actually use them.

The only thing I can suggest is to buy a remote control that can be programmed with IR sequences from your existing remote, AND supports macros. You should then be able to create one-button commands.

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William Sommerwerck

find out if anyone has found a 3rd party remote control that can be used with it, or if the factory has a remote with upgraded software.

complicated and non-intuitive that if you don't use it every day, you have to go back to the manual, even after this long time.

speed (which they call "mode"). I'm fairly good with electronics (servicing industrial electronics is my business) and took me a good year before I could make basic settings without looking it up.

remote control which is cryptic. It has way too many buttons, even for a combo unity, and has tiny labels that can't be read in a darkened room. If you hit a wrong button, sometimes it is impossible to figure out how to return the device to normal use without digging out the manual again. My manual is well worn and has many notes scribbled in it now.

device off and on with a button other than the ON/OFF button. If your lovely wife comes in and used ON/OFF, it disables the timer, and must be reset again with the special non-ON/OFF button.

such a poor user interface. A better designed remote would completely change the usability.

I had to read that twice before I realized what you meant... So you added SER to help the OP out. Sure left me confused!

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PeterD

to find out if anyone has found a 3rd party remote control that can be used with it, or if the factory has a remote with upgraded software.

so complicated and non-intuitive that if you don't use it every day, you have to go back to the manual, even after this long time.

speed (which they call "mode"). I'm fairly good with electronics (servicing industrial electronics is my business) and took me a good year before I could make basic settings without looking it up.

the remote control which is cryptic. It has way too many buttons, even for a combo unity, and has tiny labels that can't be read in a darkened room. If you hit a wrong button, sometimes it is impossible to figure out how to return the device to normal use without digging out the manual again. My manual is well worn and has many notes scribbled in it now.

device off and on with a button other than the ON/OFF button. If your lovely wife comes in and used ON/OFF, it disables the timer, and must be reset again with the special non-ON/OFF button.

such a poor user interface. A better designed remote would completely change the usability.

Get used to it. It will happen more and more as you age. :(

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Michael A. Terrell

Thanks, William. Any idea where to get a programmable remote?

products are

macros.

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Guv Bob

to find out if anyone has found a 3rd party remote control that can be used with it, or if the factory has a remote with upgraded software.

so complicated and non-intuitive that if you don't use it every day, you have to go back to the manual, even after this long time.

speed (which they call "mode"). I'm fairly good with electronics (servicing industrial electronics is my business) and took me a good year before I could make basic settings without looking it up.

the remote control which is cryptic. It has way too many buttons, even for a combo unity, and has tiny labels that can't be read in a darkened room. If you hit a wrong button, sometimes it is impossible to figure out how to return the device to normal use without digging out the manual again. My manual is well worn and has many notes scribbled in it now.

device off and on with a button other than the ON/OFF button. If your lovely wife comes in and used ON/OFF, it disables the timer, and must be reset again with the special non-ON/OFF button.

such a poor user interface. A better designed remote would completely change the usability.

Damn, not what I wanted to hear!

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PeterD

Believe it or not, I've found them more often in 'outlet' or 'job lot' stores than anywhere else.

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PeterD

to find out if anyone has found a 3rd party remote control that can be used with it, or if the factory has a remote with upgraded software.

is so complicated and non-intuitive that if you don't use it every day, you have to go back to the manual, even after this long time.

record speed (which they call "mode"). I'm fairly good with electronics (servicing industrial electronics is my business) and took me a good year before I could make basic settings without looking it up.

the remote control which is cryptic. It has way too many buttons, even for a combo unity, and has tiny labels that can't be read in a darkened room. If you hit a wrong button, sometimes it is impossible to figure out how to return the device to normal use without digging out the manual again. My manual is well worn and has many notes scribbled in it now.

device off and on with a button other than the ON/OFF button. If your lovely wife comes in and used ON/OFF, it disables the timer, and must be reset again with the special non-ON/OFF button.

such a poor user interface. A better designed remote would completely change the usability.

Me, either. The VA put me on Insulin and Terazosin today. Like Art Linkletter used to say, "Old age isn't for sissies!"

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Michael A. Terrell

Someone posted...

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Belated thanks for the newsgroup info. I solved the mystery -- problem = was internal to a circuit board in the remote, and I posted the details = at sci.electronics.repair, Subject:;; VCR or the Remote? Now it's off = to guy a replacement remote -- anyone recommend a brand or type to buy = or stay away from?

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