USB vendor ID : Any alternative to USB-IF ???

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Hi,
I plan to develop a pair of USB products, but I have understood that the
rate to get a USV vendor-ID from USB-IF is now $1500... Do you know if there
is any alternative ? If there some companies that are reselling a couple of
product-IF from their own vendor-id ? Or is it "illegal" in any way ?

Thanks for you help,
Robert



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IMHO, $1500 doesn't sound like much unless you're only producing
a small number of units and your margin is ridiculously low.
If its just an experiment or personal project, then you can pick
just about anything you want. You might look at the Linux USB
source to get an idea of which ID's are not in wide-spread use.
Once you're ready to go into production, you could fork out the
for the vendor ID. I would think you only need a single vendor ID
for a number of products, since the USB also includes a product ID
that is vendor ID unique.

Sorry if I'm missing something.


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Re: USB vendor ID : Any alternative to USB-IF ???
Yes, $1500 "doesn't sound like much", but i still consider it as expensive
just to get a number from an organization ! That's why I'm wondering if
there is a cheapest way... In particular as a vendor ID is enough to
commercialize a very large number of products (at least 65536, probably
more, i don't remember if it is on 16 bit...), then I'm wondering if there
is someone has settle a business to share the cost between products...

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You're misrepresenting the deal here.  What you get from the
organization is not just "a number".  What you actually get is the
guarantee that nobody _else_ will get to make and sell devices using
that number.  Given that number space is finite, the price must be
high enough to avoid everybody and their dog getting one just for the
fun of owning it.

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You'ld have to look into the conditions under which these numbers are
sold.  There's sufficient odds that the terms are that this "somone"
is either right-out forbidden to share out "his" number space like
that, or that he'll be held liable for you to adhere to all the
applicable USB standards --- a risk he quite probably couldn't afford
to take.
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except the illegal ones ;-)
Stef


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If you purchase USB interface chips from FTDI,  you can arrange
to sell products with product IDs they will issue to you and
use their vendor ID.   I wonder if Cypress and the other manufacturers
of USB interface chips and microcontrollers have similar options?


Mark Borgerson


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On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:08:46 -0400, "Michael N. Moran"

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If you're only producing a small number of units is there
any reason why you can't just "pick any number"?
Accepting, of course, the possibility of clashes with a
legit number later, but if you're making something like
specialised test gear that, probably, won't be an issue.

Mike Harding
(who knows nothing at all about USB)

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If you use FTDI chips, you can get an ID from them.
Stef
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