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hello i am planning to start learning the pic family . For that i want to
buy a pic programmer that is mplab compatible and is cheap. WHich makes
picstart plus out of the qn. i was thinking of buying  warp-13 . I have
listed the details could u pls tell me if its a good and worth buying?.
Sorry if this is the wrong grp to post this . G'Day

FEATURES:

  a.. Low cost PIC programmer for all 12C, 14C, 16C5x, 18Cxxx, 18Cxxx PICs.
  b.. MPLAB compatible.
  c.. Free software updates via web site.
  d.. Free firmware updates via the web site
  e.. Windows 9x/ME/XP software.
WARP-13 WILL PROGRAM THESE PICS:

PIC16C52 ? PIC16C55 ? PIC16C57 ? PIC16C54 ? PIC16C55A ? PIC16C57C ?
PIC16C54A ? PIC16C56 ? PIC16CR57B ? PIC16C54B ? PIC16C56A ? PIC16CR57C ?
PIC16C54C ? PIC16CR56A ? PIC16C58A ? PIC16CR54A ? PIC16C58B ? PIC16CR54B ?
PIC16CR58A ? PIC16CR54C ? PIC16CR58B PDIP, SOIC*, Windowed CERDIP
16HV540
(All the above PICs require either the 18-pin Zif or 28-pin auxiliary ZIFs
to be fitted. These are parallel programmed chips and do not support ISCP
over 5-wires. Many PIC programmers don't program ANY of the above devices.)

(1) 12C508, 12C508A, 12CE518, 12C509, 12C509A, 12CE519
12C671, 12C672, 12CE673, 12CE674
(1) 12F629, 12F675

(1) 16C505 16C554, 16C554A, 16C556A, 16C558, 16C558A

16C61, 16C62, 16C62A, 16C62B, 16C63, 16C63A, 16C63B, 16C64, 16C64A, 16C65,
16C65A, 16C65B, 16C66, 16C67, 16C66A, 16C67A 16C620, 16C621, 16C622,
16C620A, 16C621A, 16C622A, 16CE623, 16CE624, 16CE625
16C641, 16C642, 16C661, 16C662 16F627. 16F628, 16F627A, 16F628A, 16F648A
16C707, 16C71, 16C710, 16C711, 16C712, 16C715, 16C716, 16C717, 16C72,
16C72A, 16C73, 16C73A, 16C73B, 16C74, 16C74A, 16C74B, 16C74C, 16C76, 16C77,
16C76A, 16C77A
16C770, 16C771*, 16C773, 16C774

16C712, 16C716, 16C717

16C745, 16C765 16F630, 676 16F72, 73, 74, 76, 77 16F83, 16C84, 16F84, 16F84A
16F870, 16F871, 16F872, 16F873, 16F874, 16F876, 16F877
16F873A, 16F874A, 16F876A, 16F877A
16F818, 16F819 16C923#, 16C924#, 16C925#, 16C926#
14000* 18C242, 18C252, 18C442, 18C452, 18C258, 18C458
18F252, 18F452, 18F242, 18F442
18F258, 18F458, 18F248, 18F448
18F1220, 18F1320, 18F2220, 18F2320, 18F4220, 18F4320
18F6520, 18F6620, 18F6720, 18F8520, 18F8620**, 18F8720**
ATMEL AVR Family
AT90S1200, AT90S2313, AT90S2323, AT90S2333, AT90S2343,
AT90S4414, AT90S4433, AT90S4443,
AT90S8515, AT9OS8535, AT90S8555

ATMEL ATmega Family
ATmega103, ATmega163

ATMEL ATtiny Family
ATtiny11, ATtiny12, ATtiny22




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If you are too lazy to write, I'm too lazy to interpret.

http://www.guidenet.net/resources/wanker.html

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Dan Henry

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->qn
->u
->pls
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-If you are too lazy to write, I'm too lazy to interpret.

Interesting. I didn't even notice. I just read the correct word into the
context.

BAJ

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so did I Byron :-)

To my knowledge, there are only two programmers that are MPLAB
compatible Mark.
The picstart+ from Microchip, and the Warp-13 from Newfound.

I have sold Newfound programmers since 1995, and Jim of Newfound was
here with me 12 hours ago giving me a rundown on his future direction
for the Warp-13. He has sold about 4000 w-13's, and all WARP-13's are
hand tested before being shipped.
http://www.dontronics.com/newfound.html

I do have others: http://www.dontronics.com/cat_index_hard_pic.html that
are USB, serial, parallel, but the only one that is MPLAB compatible is
the warp-13.


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I'm looking at buying a PIC programmer for the 16 and 18 series PICs, but
I need it to work with Linux tools. The PICstart+ appears to fit the bill
but I'm wondering what other options are out there. Do any of the devices
you sell explicitly support Linux?

- Jeff Dutky

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http://newfoundelectronics.com/linux.htm
will give you the rundown on Linux and the warp-13 Jeff.
however I have no direct knowledge of this, so you will really have to
chat with the people invloved with the linux/warp-13 software.
If it works, then it is a very cost effective solution.

Don...


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look at the archives for the gnu pic group
been discussed in the last week or two.

Alex

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Newssgroups Alex?
I couldn't see it listed.
Perhaps a yahoo group or other?
thanks

Don...

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http://www.gnupic.org /
http://www.linuxhacker.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi/1 archive

http://www.linuxhacker.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?1:mss:2497:200310:eebdenclck =
jnjnblokef  think this is the warp13 thread

Alex

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http://www.linuxhacker.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?1:mss:2497:200310:eebdenclckjnjnblokef
 think this is the warp13 thread
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thanks Alex :-)


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Gee Dan, you would be most offended if you ever looked at the way I comment
my programs..



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I'm sorry but in professionally written code, comments should use proper
English and avoid being cute. Correct spelling is assumed.

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So you wouldn't approve of something like this then?

 // If we get a calibrate request via XML, we fake it.
 // Oooh! Aaahhh! AAAARRRGGGHHHHHHOUGHHHhhh... Gasp, pant, pant, pant!

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Correct, not in a real product.

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If the source code is the product then I agree. Otherwise
who cares as long as the comment helps the reader.

Doug

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Agreed, some meaningful comment is better than none. But why be lazy,
spell out the entire word. Since my deliverable is almost always the
source code you can understand my point of view.

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As clients go, this one was as top-tier as they come. OTOH they didn't get
to see the source...

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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:03:34 GMT, Geoff McCaughan

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That makes all the difference in the world ;-)  If nobody but you sees
the source, then you are only commenting (or not) for yourself and can
apply whatever standards suit you (or none at all).

The clients I work for have standards and procedures for all aspects
of development and perform formal reviews.  They "get" to see my
source, review my source, and if they don't like what they see, they
may choose not to use my services any longer.  Like I said -- I'd
never be able to get away with it.

I'm pretty sure we understand each other.

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Dan Henry

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Gee - I remember a guy named Bill Gates that used to use a variable called
"FOO-BAR" (aka FUBAR) in his documentation... didn't seem to hamper his
career all that much


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Top-posting fixed.

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:39:35 GMT, "Bob Stephens"
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But it probably does explain a lot about his code...

Regards,

                               -=Dave
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