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hello i am planning to start learning the pic family . For that i want to buy a pic programmer that is mplab compatible and is cheap. WHich makes picstart plus out of the qn. i was thinking of buying warp-13 . I have listed the details could u pls tell me if its a good and worth buying?. Sorry if this is the wrong grp to post this . G'Day

FEATURES:

a.. Low cost PIC programmer for all 12C, 14C, 16C5x, 18Cxxx, 18Cxxx PICs. b.. MPLAB compatible. c.. Free software updates via web site. d.. Free firmware updates via the web site e.. Windows 9x/ME/XP software. WARP-13 WILL PROGRAM THESE PICS:

PIC16C52 ? PIC16C55 ? PIC16C57 ? PIC16C54 ? PIC16C55A ? PIC16C57C ? PIC16C54A ? PIC16C56 ? PIC16CR57B ? PIC16C54B ? PIC16C56A ? PIC16CR57C ? PIC16C54C ? PIC16CR56A ? PIC16C58A ? PIC16CR54A ? PIC16C58B ? PIC16CR54B ? PIC16CR58A ? PIC16CR54C ? PIC16CR58B PDIP, SOIC*, Windowed CERDIP

16HV540 (All the above PICs require either the 18-pin Zif or 28-pin auxiliary ZIFs to be fitted. These are parallel programmed chips and do not support ISCP over 5-wires. Many PIC programmers don't program ANY of the above devices.)

(1) 12C508, 12C508A, 12CE518, 12C509, 12C509A, 12CE519

12C671, 12C672, 12CE673, 12CE674 (1) 12F629, 12F675

(1) 16C505 16C554, 16C554A, 16C556A, 16C558, 16C558A

16C61, 16C62, 16C62A, 16C62B, 16C63, 16C63A, 16C63B, 16C64, 16C64A, 16C65, 16C65A, 16C65B, 16C66, 16C67, 16C66A, 16C67A 16C620, 16C621, 16C622, 16C620A, 16C621A, 16C622A, 16CE623, 16CE624, 16CE625 16C641, 16C642, 16C661, 16C662 16F627. 16F628, 16F627A, 16F628A, 16F648A 16C707, 16C71, 16C710, 16C711, 16C712, 16C715, 16C716, 16C717, 16C72, 16C72A, 16C73, 16C73A, 16C73B, 16C74, 16C74A, 16C74B, 16C74C, 16C76, 16C77, 16C76A, 16C77A 16C770, 16C771*, 16C773, 16C774

16C712, 16C716, 16C717

16C745, 16C765 16F630, 676 16F72, 73, 74, 76, 77 16F83, 16C84, 16F84, 16F84A 16F870, 16F871, 16F872, 16F873, 16F874, 16F876, 16F877 16F873A, 16F874A, 16F876A, 16F877A 16F818, 16F819 16C923#, 16C924#, 16C925#, 16C926# 14000* 18C242, 18C252, 18C442, 18C452, 18C258, 18C458 18F252, 18F452, 18F242, 18F442 18F258, 18F458, 18F248, 18F448 18F1220, 18F1320, 18F2220, 18F2320, 18F4220, 18F4320 18F6520, 18F6620, 18F6720, 18F8520, 18F8620**, 18F8720** ATMEL AVR Family AT90S1200, AT90S2313, AT90S2323, AT90S2333, AT90S2343, AT90S4414, AT90S4433, AT90S4443, AT90S8515, AT9OS8535, AT90S8555

ATMEL ATmega Family ATmega103, ATmega163

ATMEL ATtiny Family ATtiny11, ATtiny12, ATtiny22

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Mark
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If you are too lazy to write, I'm too lazy to interpret.

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Dan Henry
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-If you are too lazy to write, I'm too lazy to interpret.

Interesting. I didn't even notice. I just read the correct word into the context.

BAJ

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Byron A Jeff

so did I Byron :-)

To my knowledge, there are only two programmers that are MPLAB compatible Mark. The picstart+ from Microchip, and the Warp-13 from Newfound.

I have sold Newfound programmers since 1995, and Jim of Newfound was here with me 12 hours ago giving me a rundown on his future direction for the Warp-13. He has sold about 4000 w-13's, and all WARP-13's are hand tested before being shipped.

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I do have others:

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that are USB, serial, parallel, but the only one that is MPLAB compatible is the warp-13.

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Don McKenzie

Gee Dan, you would be most offended if you ever looked at the way I comment my programs..

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Bob Stephens

"The real Andy" wrote in news:3f9e3726$0$21653$ snipped-for-privacy@news.optusnet.com.au:

I'm sorry but in professionally written code, comments should use proper English and avoid being cute. Correct spelling is assumed.

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Mark A. Odell

I'm looking at buying a PIC programmer for the 16 and 18 series PICs, but I need it to work with Linux tools. The PICstart+ appears to fit the bill but I'm wondering what other options are out there. Do any of the devices you sell explicitly support Linux?

- Jeff Dutky

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Jeffrey Dutky

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will give you the rundown on Linux and the warp-13 Jeff. however I have no direct knowledge of this, so you will really have to chat with the people invloved with the linux/warp-13 software. If it works, then it is a very cost effective solution.

Don...

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Don McKenzie

So you wouldn't approve of something like this then?

// If we get a calibrate request via XML, we fake it. // Oooh! Aaahhh! AAAARRRGGGHHHHHHOUGHHHhhh... Gasp, pant, pant, pant!

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Geoff McCaughan

Geoff McCaughan wrote in news:WXBnb.930$ snipped-for-privacy@news.xtra.co.nz:

Correct, not in a real product.

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Mark A. Odell

If the source code is the product then I agree. Otherwise who cares as long as the comment helps the reader.

Doug

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look at the archives for the gnu pic group been discussed in the last week or two.

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Alex Gibson

Gee - I remember a guy named Bill Gates that used to use a variable called "FOO-BAR" (aka FUBAR) in his documentation... didn't seem to hamper his career all that much

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Bob Stephens

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PIC-MCP 100% MPLAB compatible, $69.95 + shipping does everything Picstart+ does exept the PIC17xxx series programming soon will be available with USB too

Best regards Tsvetan

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Tsvetan Usunov

We use the ICD2 debugger/programmer from Microchip. I don't know what you mean by cheap but at $159 USD this unit offers pretty good bang for the buck.

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Bob Stephens

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But it probably does explain a lot about his code...

Regards,

-=Dave

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Dave Hansen

As if he ever wrote a single line of code...

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Guillaume

"Doug Dotson" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com:

Agreed, some meaningful comment is better than none. But why be lazy, spell out the entire word. Since my deliverable is almost always the source code you can understand my point of view.

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Mark A. Odell

"Bob Stephens" wrote in news:XaRnb.6589$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net:

I wouldn't think that how much you make determines how professional you are, nor how much respect your peers or customers give you. I simply cannot imagine having a code review with "kewl crzy cmnts" and not having my head served to me on a platter by my peers. Can you?

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