PicForth 1.0 is released

Jaguar owners are like that too.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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Spehro Pefhany
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Windows is a fiendishly difficult OS to write programs for (and don't even think about mentioning device drivers). When I started working on my Windows Forth system, I expected to spend maybe a few weeks (or at most a few months) learning what I needed to know. I can get a handle on most operating systems is a few days. It took months to learn enough to even know where to start. If I had even dreamed that it would take several years, I would have run away screaming before I started.

Microsoft's motto should be "complex answers to simple problems".

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Gary Chanson

When I clicked on

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I got taken to

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which is OK for me with IE 6.

Leon

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Leon Heller

You don't see a graphic covering up the first word ("PicForth")?

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Guy Macon

"Guy Macon" skrev i en meddelelse news: snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com...

Hello

Earlier I also had problems with the homepage but now I'm also transferred to the right page. I have not done any changes in IE6 since last post.

But the graphic is still covering the H in PICFORTH

Cheers Rune

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Rune Christensen

The fancy theory of computing gets involved with things like algorithms executing in n log n steps. The less fancy theories are concerned with optimizing compilers, pipelines and clock speeds. But the main limitation to what can be computed is the understanding of programmers. Gary's remarks on Windows documentation are not side issues. They are about the limiting step. Software and hardware will grow until the systems cannot be properly documented. Software development has to stop when programmers can not find bugs fast enough. The large computer companies stop growing when their technical writers can no longer understand what their engineers and code writers are doing. Free software advocates have spent decades showing that making all the source code available is absolutely necessary. The next important step is seeing that the clarity of that source code is also vital. I wish that wouldn't take so long.

Forth started out showing how many levels of complexity of operating systems could be removed. Why does anybody need the multimegabytes of Windows to program something small and simple like a Pic controller? Its because very few people learn how to use Forth. And many Forth developers are trying to use Forth as part of a giant software system instead of using it to create a simple software system.

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m-coughlin

"m-coughlin" wrote

Rule 1:

Knowing when to call it quits and go home: You create two bugs for every one you fix.

Rule 2:

If all the bugs are fixed the software is obsolete.

You don't if you still have all the old DOS based Parallax tools ...

Strunk was wrong, the mantra is "Complicate, complicate, complicate".

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Nicholas O. Lindan

No, he got the mantra right. You wouldn't need to keep repeating the mantra if it was the way that things went in the ordinary run of things.

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Dr. Bruce R. McFarling

Complication is a close relative to entropy: It grows by itself and you have to spend energy to decrease it.

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Tauno Voipio

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