Outlook 2003 does not find Notes by Cyrillic text in them

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Re: Outlook 2003 does not find Notes by Cyrillic text in them
comp.arch.embedded:

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What could possibly make you think this question has anything at all
to do with embedded systems?  Try a Microsoft support group.

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Re: Outlook 2003 does not find Notes by Cyrillic text in them

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Maybe it's time to switch to SW with better support?   Perhaps
Thunderbird?  Or even Linux?

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Re: Outlook 2003 does not find Notes by Cyrillic text in them
What are the SW and Thunderbird?


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Well, since you neglected to include any context, the SW in the US
generally covers such states as California, Arizona, New Mexico.
Similarly a Thunderbird may be an alcoholic drink or a breed of
automobile, by Ford.

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Re: Outlook 2003 does not find Notes by Cyrillic text in them
Do you know how to read groups at all? My question was a reply to Grant
Edwards reply on 2005-07-15.


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You obviously have no idea what you are really dealing with.
That's alright, none of us were born knowing everything.

Google groups is a very poor interface to the usenet system (which
you can make useful by following the instructions in my sig below.
The sig is the portion following the "-- " marker.)  Googles forte
is archiving things, including usenet.  Most news servers expire
news articles in a short time (a few days to a few weeks) after
which they are gone forever.

Usenet extends world wide, and has been around a lot longer than
google, or the WWW system. Most participants use a mailer which
communicates with a news server (which google is not, it depends on
a newsserver too).  There is never any guarantee that any previous
message is (or will ever be) available.  Thus all articles have to
stand on their own, and require proper context (quotations) and
attributions (who said what).  The '>' at the left of a line
indicate a quotation, and the number of '>'s ties that line to an
attribution.

Your ISP normally provides a newsserver.  Some poorer ISPs do not.

Netscape (before version 8) and Mozilla can provide complete news,
email, and WWW access, and are available for many systems.  For
news only (usenet) there are various readers, including xnews (but
only for windows) and Thunderbird (which includes email).  Some
also include Outlook Express here, but that is also windows only
and, until the appearance of the google interface, was far and away
the worst possible mailer to use.  There are also addons to EMACS
such as gnus, with which I am not familiar.  And others.

Here are a few references to read:

http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html
http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk /
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/g.mccaughan/g/remarks/uquote.html

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Re: Outlook 2003 does not find Notes by Cyrillic text in them
You could know I was asking Grant Edwards the question by the tree view
in the Google groups. My reply is a
branch of his reply in the tree.


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Google is a very poor interface to Usenet.  You appear to be stupid
or otherwise unteachable.  I did try.

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Re: Outlook 2003 does not find Notes by Cyrillic text in them
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Of course they do, many readers offer a tree view. But as I have told you
before, this tree view is presented by the NEWSREADER and dependent on the
messages the newsreader has stored. If I for instance, at this moment,
decide to subscribe to comp.arch.embedded, there might be thousands of
messages present. The first thing I do is apply the "Catch Up" function to
start with a clean (=empty) list. If you then post a reply after that, to a
message which was posted before I did the "Catch Up", I will only see your
reply, no matter what Tree View I have. Clear now?

Meindert



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Clear, but people should look for the whole thread.


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What's clear? Why should people " look for the whole thread"? Is
whatever it is really so important that I should go to the Google
archives and track it down? What will happen if I don't?

Anxiously waiting your response, and wondering if I'll recognize it
when it appears.

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WE'RE NOT USING GOOGLE GROUPS.


BTW, all caps signifies shouting.

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There's no way you can be this stupid, so you must be trolling.

<plonk>

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Ah. Since you didn't quote my article, I didn't know you were
asking me a question.  You're not going to get very good
results in Usenet unless you learn to follow the "rules".

SW == software

Thunderbird == a mail program that doesn't suck
               http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird /


Why are you asking questions about Outlook in comp.arch.embedded????
              
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Re: Outlook 2003 does not find Notes by Cyrillic text in them
You knew I was asking you a question by the tree view. My reply is a
branch of your reply in the tree.


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A tree view is a concept of the used newsreader, not of  Usenet itself. So
anyone who jumps in into the middle of the discussion, might not see
previous messages in his "tree view" because the messages might simply not
be there.

Meindert



Re: Outlook 2003 does not find Notes by Cyrillic text in them
The original text is in the google edit reply window. Why is the
original text absent in the published reply?


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a) I'm not using the same newsreader you are, so talking about
   "the tree view" is meaningless.

b) I don't keep old articles in view after I've read them.

If you keep up this sort of behavior, it's likely that people
will start to ignore you.

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[OT] Google and Usenet, was: Re: Outlook 2003 does not find Notes
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You have made the mistake of assuming that Google Groups _IS_ Usenet.

It is not. Usenet is a global network of servers exchanging newsgroup
messages using the NNTP protocol (and in times gone past, UUCP based
protocols).

Google is merely one (large) site on this network. All that is different
about Google is that it has decided to collect these messages and present
them via a web based interface. Any messages entered by users of this
web interface are then injected into this global network of Usenet servers
by Google.

I, for one, use a text based client (running in a terminal session) and not
a web browser when reading Usenet and posting to it.

Many of us (myself included) have been using Usenet before either Google or
web browsers existed.

Based on your comments here, it seems that Google has not done a good job
of explaining this.

HTH,

Simon.

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