OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot

The web site doesn't bother posting figures less than 0.1% and - as far as I can work out - most of the EU hasn't got enough juvenile malnutrition to register.

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I'm sorry, but by the time I'd copied what seemed like every country in former Yugoslavia from the list into my posting, I'd gotten horribly bored, and I figured that the readers would too, so I collapsed them into "former Yugoslavia".

I apologise for unintentionally traducing Slovenia. I hadn't realised that your war had been so short and non-destructive.

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Good for Slovenia! The Netherlands is acquiring a culture of eating well - we now have three restaurants with three Michelin stars - but there is a long way to go. It a Dutch person recommends a restaurant to you, you can be fairly sure that the decor, ambience and service will all be okay, but the food can be total rubbish.

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They can balance a ball on their nose

One of the advantages, of course, is that all the computer languages are English.. or at least American English. Also if you want to get the big bucks.. you still have to move to the USA. There also seems to be a trend of IT personal switching countries, and English, for better or worse, is a fairly generic language.

Simon

That's changing. Wages for technology workers in India are rising at a very high rate. Soon, they will close in on us, both in terms of wages as well as living standards. Then, they will become just as good customers for our producers as we are for theirs.

China is a different story. Being a controlled economy, they are holding their exchange rate artificially low. We aren't complaining, because it allows US investors to pick up Chinese assets at bargain basement prices. Take a look at the financing behind Lenovo 'buying' IBM's PC division for an example. Once they have moved sufficient capital out of the USA, they will give the go-ahead to the Chinese gov't to cut the yuan loose. The exchange rate jump alone will make them billions.

Not really. Most of this is going overseas, if it hasn't already. Our local aircraft company is scheduled to begin building their next model and the local paper just ran a story about how they haven't figured out the manufacturing plan yet. After all those junkets to Japan, to learn 'The Toyota Way' and they still don't have a clue.

Yes. With a Glock (Austrian made).

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.. and anorexia nervosa would be responsible for most cases anyway.

Paul

Well, this is not specific to Europe. Seen on the cbsnews web site

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It is indeed a long way to go, if the goal is three Michelin star food for everyone, everyday.

Sheesh!

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the company I worked for in MA had everything in a big relational database (stock control, RMAs etc). the guy who controlled it was dyslexic. For the first year or so, If I wanted a part it was quicker for me to walk to the production building and browse thru the stockroom, looking in boxes, than to try and find things using the database. Eventually I learned how he routinely mis-spelled things, and could then use the database. My CEO didnt seem to think it was a problem.

I also did a time-and-motion study of the RMA area, where my buddy Bob fixed stuff. He is an amazing tech, far quicker than I'll ever be. time to fix - typ. 10-15 mins. writing up the form - 5 mins. typing in the resultant data - 1~2 hours, hunt-and-peck. My suggestion - hire a (pretty) school leaver who can type, and pay her minimum wage to type up his written docs. The implemented solution? 2 more techs....

Cheers Terry

I'd be happy if you autochtones could reliably tell the difference between one-star and two-star food. Since three-star food has to surprise you, providing it every day would be asking a lot of the supplier, and consuming it would be very wearing for the consumer.

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Jim Thompson hasn't a clue about the subject under discussion, but we get his two cents worth anyway. I had hoped that he was still busy trying to get my security cleaances revoked, but it seems now he wants to be futile someplace else.

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Doesn't sound like a bad goal. Instead of food insecurity you'd have to worry about the prevalence of gout.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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In article , Joerg writes

Not in the UK They "recognise" a lot of over seas universities.

Only if you don't recognise foreign universities. Or forigen qualifications.

I wonder what world you do live in... :-)

the FDA ones don't seem to bad.

You can get it in the UK It will get better as more people are required to be a PE/C.Eng etc

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I'm getting more worried about my wallet, and what's in it. Bill is a snob of course, as most Michelin star restaurants customers are. Last friday I had the pleasure of a dinner at Ron Blaauw's Palazzo, in Amsterdam.

Ron Blaauw is good for 1 star, so the food was excellent. But at this level, the amount of joy has not much to do with the food. It's a sum of everything that surrounds it, and probably the most important ingredient of any good dinner is how you and your guests are feeling themselves.

Most of the better restaurants here charge 20-25 euro for a main dish, and you can expect excellent food for that. Entrees and desserts for

10-12 euro. A bottle of good wine, 30-35 euro. Paying double or triple get's you into the Michelin star places, but gives diminishing returns. Of course you can spend all evening there trying to find something you can complain about, such as a tiny spot on the table ware, the wine being 2 degrees too cold, the haricots verts too long or too short and what have you, and you will not be able to find anything wrong. But that is not my definition of a perfect dinner ;)

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The PE 's giving you refeence/verification do NOT have to be EEs. I just was approved to take the exam this April and 2 of my references were licensed mechanical PEs, not EE. Don't let this deter you....you can find PEs of any field and use for reference.

Paul

Sure looks that way.

John

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Sure - for as long as the rest of the world insist on their right to choose a looser culture!

Of Course - That is one of the advantages of having a civilisation.

No, the world economy is very far from a zero sum game - the cake can grow larger if it is allowed to - but most of the time people that are fearful of change will setup systems to keep things the same as they always was and you get the living standard that was and not what could be.

i.e: Why subsidise european sugar farmers when sugar can be had in Brazil cheaper - it is maybe 30000 people in the whole of the EU!!

or: Why block the internet because it is "un-islamic" - if Islam is so allmighty it should be able to stand alone!!

The cake grows when trade and information is allowed to flow freely and it shrinks when the flow is restricted by taxes, political- or cultural barriers. The poorest and indeed the worst performing countries are the most closed ones!

So, if some chinese or indian snags my idea and build a business from it, Fine. Then maybe I can sell him some other things - since he is now monied and can afford them. That is how it works.

Children, children - play nice.

I find it odd that grown men, and no doubt entirely mature and sensible grown men, revert to kindergarten tactics when arguing via this protective barrier we call the Internet. To say "it's the nature of usenet" doesn't cut it - we're still people, no matter what the medium. Is dignity disposable?

And no doubt I'll get flambéed now for pointing this out...

Steve

Now that looks like a good spot for nice meal. Is the presentation really like in the photos? Unagi (err... smoked eel) and split pea is intriguing, as is the fish.

You'd probably enjoy either of these if you ever get out this way:

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As you can see, the prices are not very different. (1.4 C$ = 1 EUR), but you have to expect the final price will be about 1/3 higher with taxes and tip.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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I doubt if I qualify as a food snob. I'm a bit too willing to eat a good pizza - particularly since the cute Italian post-doc charmed Nijmegens good pizza place into stocking Amarone (which lead to us paying twice as much for the wine as for the pizza, until the proprietor realised that if his pizzas were good enough to eat with Amraone he could get away with charging more for them).

But not too fancy. With two Michelin stars they can do everything perfectly, but are unlikely to surprise you. For three stars, they need to do everything perfectly and be inventive to boot - though three-star restaurants in France can be a bit dissappointing for a few years before the inspectors finally lower the boom. The owner-chef of the restaurant de la Cote d'Or in Saulieu - Bernard Loiseau - shot himself after the Gault Millau guide downgraded him from 19 points to 17, so you can understand the reluctance of the inspectors.

Frank, you very Dutch! The service and the ambience are just the wrapping paper around the food. Of course the joy a group gets out of eating together is only incidentally affected by the food they eat, but the food is what the restaurant is supplying - the joy we have to find for ourselves!

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