NEWSGROUPS for Networking issues for xp and w7

Are there any newsgroups dedicated to issues with network problems? I have looked at the newsgroups listings but I don't find any with many messages.

Thanks

Joe

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justme
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Microsoft used to participate in their microsoft.public.* usenet areas prettymuch. IIRC they pulled out of everything all in there, but I can't find a reference for that.

Unfortunatly, your best bet is probably webforums. Probably more interesting areas are in

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Doug McIntyre

Thanks, Doug. That is a great help. I always forget about Techhelp and to search for web forums.

Joe

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justme

Some people post to comp.os.linux.networking or other Linux newsgroups. If your issue is a more general networking one (say, routing or firewalling) rather than a very specifically windows one, there's a good chance people there will know the answer.

That's partly because most MS-only networks are quite simple, so if it's a complex network, it will have something *nix on it, and partly because Linux techies are more likely to be interested in how it all works, and partly because the average Linux techie is more naturally inclined towards sharing information, and partly because Linux techies will be more inclined to use the fast, efficient, text-based Usenet system rather than the slow, inconvenient, web-based forums that are a natural choice for Windows admins.

Of course, if you want to ask about Windows networking in a Linux group, you need to do so carefully (for example, follow standard Usenet rules such as no top-posting).

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David Brown

Thanks, David.

However, this is a very convoluted problem spefic to Windows only.

To me, top posting makes lots of sense so I do what makes sense to me. Thanks for the caveat.

Joe

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justme

And that point of view has a name: it's called egoism. It really shouldn't surprise anyone that that gets frowned upon while asking others to unegoistically help you for free.

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Hans-Bernhard Bröker

That makes sense, because it's you to which you're trying to communicate your your problem/question and it's you from which you need help.

Therefore, you should do things that are easiest for you, and not bother trying to make things easy for others.

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Grant
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Grant Edwards

Hans, I have let your other comments go but you seem to be a particularly poisonous little viper intent on causing trouble.

To me, top posting makes perfect sense and to a lot of others, too. Hans, you just can't have everything presented to you in the way that you want.

I could explain in detail why top-posting is the most logical option but you don't want common sense. You suffer from some sort of personality disorder/psychological condition that you are not aware of and are determined to take others to task.

I would most appreciate it if you could just do a tad of introspection and also, please never bother me again.

Thank you

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justme

Grant, see my reply to Hans, it fits you, too.

In America, ROUGHLY HALF of the population is either Democrat or Republican. Should I change my beliefs to yours, even though to me, they don't make sense.

Don't pester me again, kiddo.

Now, run al>>> Thanks, David.

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justme

I would probably do better just to keep quiet, but I just thought I would mention that I try to not respond to comments like the ones you replied to. There is really not much point in even politely discussing things like top vs. bottom posting. It is just too religious an issue.

There's not much point to being ticked off at people who complain about your behavior or ticking them off. There are some folks on the Internet that I find little value in trying to communicate. So I just don't. If they reply to one of my posts I thank them and don't otherwise reply.

In fact, I treat it as a challenge to not reply no matter how much I want to.

Just a thought, nothing to get worked up about.

Rick

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rickman

Well, you can always 'cheat' by setting up an ignore filter in your news reader.

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Arlet Ottens
[Verbal excrement snipped.]

Well, since you insist.

PLONK.

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Hans-Bernhard Bröker

Top posting does not make sense for most Usenet users. In situations where top-posting is established practice, such as a lot of non-technical email, then it makes sense to continue top-posting in such arenas. Consistency is important, and can outweigh the other arguments.

But for long established newsgroups where people mostly reply inline or at the end of the post, then there are /no/ good reasons for top-posting, and lots of good reasons to continue the established tradition. Since this group consists mainly of technical and rational people, most people here who bother to think about posting style will quickly realise that top-posting is a pain. And since most people here are also polite, respectful and considerate people, they also realise that when you join a community like a newsgroup, you follow the common practices of others in that group. There is thus only a tiny proportion of posters here who top-post.

How would you react if Hans-Bernhard were to post in German, because that made perfect sense to him and many others? Obviously the analogy is not perfect, but the principle is the same - /you/ don't have the right to come here and tell us that /your/ way is better. You certainly have the right to /suggest/ changes - even the oldest and most stubborn members of this newsgroup are willing to learn new things. But when you tell us that you run counter to this group and that you will post /your/ way despite almost everyone else's opinions, then Hans-Bernhard is absolutely right to call it egoism.

He and many others want things presented in the standard way for this newsgroup (and most other newsgroups). The poster who sticks out like a sore thumb is not Hans-Bernhard.

"justme", you ask interesting questions and make interesting comments - your posts are read and replied-to by many in this group. But that is /despite/ your posting style, not because of it. Most people (including me, most of the time) put up with it - but very, very few people like it or appreciate it. And some of the most experienced and knowledgeable people are precisely those who will ignore you because of your attitude. These people will lose nothing of significance without you, but /you/ will lose out.

I am a fan of common sense. Rather than explain things in detail, I'm going to give you a few links from a Google search on "top-posting". Have a read of these, and think about them. If you then believe that you have good logical arguments as to why it is better for this newsgroup that you top-post, and you believe that those reasons are more important than the counter-arguments in these links, then let me know. It is off-topic for this group, but I would be happy to hear your reasons. I would certainly be happy to hear a better reason than "because I'm too lazy to post properly", which is the only "good" reason I can think of for top-posting.

Feel free to post any links you find on why top-posting is better - other than "it works better for me and I don't care about anyone else". I couldn't find any, though maybe I didn't try hard enough.

mvh.,

David

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David Brown

I'm just trying to explain that top-posting is not the preferred way to do things in most Usenet newsgroups. You're free to do whatever you want, but you'll get better results by following custom than by flaunting it.

I suggest you read this:

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OTOH, to be honest, I think you're really just trolling.

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Grant
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Grant Edwards

Rick, you are so right and thanks for the input.

I tried that with a few of these malcontents but obviously, I slipped.

My brother has a PhD in psychology and he sometimes gives me his opinion on these types.

Oh well, I hope my brother doesn't start in on me; I am hopeless.

Take care.

Joe

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justme

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