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I'm interested in learning about and programming embedded
microcontrollers.  I'm on a shoestring budget though.  I'm looking at
the Atmel AVR chips since there is a large user community for them.

In order to get my feet wet is it necessary to get the STK500
development board or can I get started with a basic AVR chip and a
solderless breadboard?  It seems to me that from a hardware
perspective I should go the breadboard route since I'll need to learn
how to hook things up.  But from the software development standpoint I
don't understand how I download code to the chip when using a
breadboard.  It sounds like if you have the STK500 and AVRstudio
downloading code is a snap.

It sounds like with the breadboard route I could use the ATAVRISP to
download my code but I didn't understand its tech sheet's explanation
of the circuit needed.

(I know how to program in C and other high level languages, but
electronics is where I'm starting from scratch.)

Thanks for any advice.

Re: newbie question; how to load code to chip?
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The simplest way to get started is to use the SP12 interface:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbolt/e-spider_prog.html

It's just a couple of resistors, some wire, a DB-25 connector for the
printer port, and five connctions to the target system.

With the SP12 software you can program the chip in your breadboard, after
developing the software using AVR Studio.

Leon



Re: newbie question; how to load code to chip?
On 13 Nov 2004 23:02:25 -0800, Rusty Wright

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You're right, the AVRISP gadget is probably the best way for you to go.
Building your own might be a bit cheaper (if you already have most of
the parts) but $30 buys the assurance that the programmer and the
programming software talk to each other and that the programmer itself
is assembled correctly.

The AVRISP comes with two programming cables: a 2x5 and a 2x3. The 2x3
cable is the same one that is used on the STK500. In fact, the STK500
can be jumpered so that it can also be used to program parts on a
separate breadboard using either of the two cables.

For typical AVRISP in-system programming on a "real" circuit board, the
2x3 or 2x5 ribbon cables would plug into a 0.1"-center pin header. As
you probably noticed, this won't work with the usual breadboard. What I
do is use a cable that has a DIP-plug on one end and a 2x5 socket on the
AVRISP end. The DIP-plug fits across the "valley" on the breadboard so
the signals are separated.

You could use individual jumper wires that plug between the breadboard
sockets and the sockets on the ARVISP programming cable. That is OK but
is also one more place where wiring errors can creep in...

Note that it is recommended that the AVRISP *not* be plugged into or
removed from the target board when the target board is energized.

As far as the circuit needed, just match the corresponding pin-labels
between the AVRISP termination plug and the pins on the AVR chip:

                                                  VCC .----.
         VCC             .----------------------------o    |
          .              |     .-----.                |    |
          |              |  VCC|     | MOSI      MOSI |    |
          '------o-------o-----o     o----------------o    |
                 |             |     |                |    |
                 |          GND|     | MISO      MISO |    |
                .-.      .-----o     o----------------o    |
                | |      |     |     |                |    |
            10K | |     ===    |     | SCK        SCK |    |
                '-'     GND    |     o----------------o    |
                 |             |     |                |    |
                 |         RST*|     |           RST* |    |
                 '-------o-----o     |      .---------o    |
                         |     |     |      |         |    |
                         |     |     |      |     GND |    |
                         |     |     |      |      .--o ISP|
                         |     |     |      |      |  '----'
                         |     |     |      |      |
                         |     |     |      |      |
                         |     |     |      |      |
                         |     |     |      |      |
                         |     |     |      |      |
                         |     |     |      |     ===
                         |     |     |      |     GND
                         |     | AVR |      |
                         |     '-----'      |
                         |                  |
                         '------------------'
(created by AACircuit v1.28 beta 10/06/04 www.tech-chat.de)


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Rich Webb   Norfolk, VA

Re: newbie question; how to load code to chip?
I probably have a profile very similar to your's (sofware guy wanted
to learn more about digital electronic), and I  bought a low-cost
developement board that would:

- allow me to become familiar with the AVR architecture
without having to buy expansive programmers or even worse
for me, having to build my own programmer...

- use what I would learn to build my own system from scratch, using
my development board to program the AVR.

I ended up buying an AT90S2313 based board for $19.90:
 http://www.futurlec.com/ATDevBoard.shtml
 - I guess STK500 is around $100 ??? -

The board came with a Windows application that would
program the AVR on the board with the content of an Intel
Hex file produced by avr-gcc or arv-as.

I now have two boards working, the development one,
and the one I built from scratch and am very proud of  ;-).

The AT90S2313 was good enough for me, but you can probably
use the same approach and with an ATMega for $32.00:
http://www.futurlec.com/ATMegaDevBoard.shtml

At the time I bought my board, programming software
was only available for Windows 9x, which was not a problem
for me since I had a multiple boot installation.

(Using Windows 2000 drivers for making parallel port
available to old DOS/Win9x software did not work for me)

You may have to check with the vendor in order to know they
have a new version of the software if you don't have a Windows 9x
system available

The following article does contain a lot of very valuable information
for starting programming an AVR in C:
http://users.rcn.com/rneswold/avr /
http://users.rcn.com/rneswold/avr/chexample.html

Jean Tabel

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Have a look at:
http://www.dontronics.com/dt006.html
this will give the schematics and software to build your own, plus a large
explanation of the steps taken.

Don...


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