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Oh you need not be sad, I'm damn glad I haven't lived
there for a while - I much prefer Australia :)

Mike Harding


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You are way put of touch.  These are good salaries IMHO.

Ian



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Is the pay scale really that low over there? I would expect the salaries to
be at least double that.

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god - did you keep in mind that they don't use USD $ in the UK?

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opps, sorry

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But, all of us Americans know that we are the center of the universe.  
Besides, that's still only 1.7 ish times the salary stated, not at least
double.  ;)

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You do realize those are pounds sterling, yes? Those salaries compare
quite favorably with East Coast US salaries.

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Geez, not Boston thankfully. We can beat the top end (50K) at a 1.7
scalar.

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I should qualify this by saying an okay house, not something you'd look at
twice, would be above $500k USD.

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If I have all my sums correct:
50 * 1.7 = 85UKP
85 * 1.75 = US$148

500 / 148 = 3.3

So an average house is 3.3 times salary which sounds
pretty good compared to what the UK guys have been
saying? ie. Indicates salaries are, proportionally, higher?

Mike Harding


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I am not so sure about your sums.  50K pounds * 1.7 = 85K dollars.

500K/85K = 5.88
The average UK house price is around 150K pounds so

150K/50K = 3.0

Seems our salary to house ratio is better thean yours?

Ian


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Keep in mind he is talking about Boston, so don't use 500K USD as the
average US house price.  I don't know off hand what the average price of
a house is in the US, but, around where I live, you can easily find a
nice size house for 250K or so, which is right around the same 3x figure.

Also, he said that in Boston, the salary mentioned can be beat, which
does not surprise me, as it can where I live as well.

The actual house cost to salary ratio will vary quite a bit, depending on
where you want to live, and how far you are willing to commute.

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Richard

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Remember that health care in the UK is free...How much do you Amercians
pay??????



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Free?  Well, since you asked, my disposable income is a
significantly higher percentage of my gross than it would be
in the UK (or NZ for that matter) health insurance, sales
and local taxes notwithstanding.  

Beautiful place though, NZ.  Great for decompressing on the
way back from Antarctica, amoungst its many other charms.

Regards,
Ken Asbury

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I think this is what makes sensible comparisons so difficult becuase we all
have to pay for the same things but the way we do this varies from country
to country.  An we haven't even touched on the intangibles like lifestyle,
education etc etc.

Ian


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Nothing worth having is free.

And I suspect you pay more for what you get than I do.

Regards,

                               -=Dave
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Not a whole lot for me, company pays for most of the cost of insurance.  
Others are not so lucky I know.

How long do you have to wait for a noncritical medical procedure?

How much do you pay in taxes in the UK?

There are all sorts of tradeoffs.

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It varies from place to place, and employer to employer, but you could
say, very roughly, somewhere around 1% of salary. This is only the
employee contribution, of course - the rest could be considered part
of salary.

For independents, who have to buy their own, again, costs vary by
location and other factors, but (again very roughly) you could say in
the 300-600 USD/month range for a family. Starting this year,
self-employed people can deduct 100% of health insurance costs from
federal income taxes. This has increased from 50% over the last few
years.

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As a data point, I incorporated and had my company pay for BSBC family
coverage. It was $889/mo. Delta Dental wasn't worth the premium.

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Actually it is "free at the point of need." - that's the point about the
National Health Service in the UK. Health care available to all, regardless
of someone's ability to afford it. But we definitely pay for it, via part of
our National Insurance contributions (for that read 'tax') proportional to
income. Despite its operational flaws, it is a great thing, IMHO.

Jim




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