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I geared my education towards embedded design because I discovered
that it was something I enjoyed doing. I enjoyed the challenge, and I
enjoyed building neat little MCU based devices. I did my final year
design project in embedded, desiging and building an embedded device
that incorporated wireless 802.11 TCP/IP communication.

Now, not only can I not find a job, I can barely find any jobs to
apply to. The only guy I do know in the industry works at Mitsubishi
and says they laid off a bunch of people when they merged with Hitachi
and are not hiring (so there goes any inside tracks). Public
entry-level positions don't seem to exist anymore.

I hear all of the talk about jobs moving to India and whatnot, but I
don't see a lot of posts by grads complaining they can't find work,
which makes me wonder if I'm just incompetent at finding a job. I'm
just wondering what you guys actually working inside the industry
think the situation is like. Any grads find work in the past few
months?

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: I geared my education towards embedded design because I discovered
: that it was something I enjoyed doing. I enjoyed the challenge, and I
: enjoyed building neat little MCU based devices. I did my final year
: design project in embedded, desiging and building an embedded device
: that incorporated wireless 802.11 TCP/IP communication.
:
: Now, not only can I not find a job, I can barely find any jobs to
: apply to. The only guy I do know in the industry works at Mitsubishi
: and says they laid off a bunch of people when they merged with Hitachi
: and are not hiring (so there goes any inside tracks). Public
: entry-level positions don't seem to exist anymore.
:
: I hear all of the talk about jobs moving to India and whatnot, but I
: don't see a lot of posts by grads complaining they can't find work,
: which makes me wonder if I'm just incompetent at finding a job. I'm
: just wondering what you guys actually working inside the industry
: think the situation is like. Any grads find work in the past few
: months?

    You in SoCal? (appear to be)..



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You might try looking around at places like monster.com or dice.com. I've seen
job listings for embedded programmers. My advice is that even though jobs are
listed requiring experienced programmers, send your resume in anyway. Mention
your project with 802.11 and TCP/IP as I've seen quite a few postings looking
for people who have done this (at least here in Silicon Valley). Also mention
any RTOS you used.

Try looking at websites for places that do networking stuff like Cisco or PDA
folk like Palm (or whoever makes Blackberry).


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I was laid off due to outsourcing my embedded job to India.
Been out of work over 9 months. None of my fellow
laid off engineers  have found permanent work yet.

Silicon Valley unemployment rate just dropped from 8.4% to 7.9%
but that was only because people have given up and quit looking for work.
I've read there are 300 applications per job in Silicon Valley right now.

San Diego is the hub for embedded wireless companies.

National unemployment slightly improved last month due to increased military
spending.
Consider military companies; Lockheed, Raytheon, Boeing.

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YEs... in India.  This is an international NG you don't say where in the
world you are.


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First question is what qaulifications and experience do you have?

Ian



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If you're a recent grad, go through the university career fairs (and
career and employment services) to find a job.  Out side of college,
employers expect at least 5 years experience.  When I graduated in '97,
it took at least a dozen interviews to become "good" at them.  Go to
seminars and read books on interviewing.  Gear your resume towards the
specific job you are applying for.  Yes, there are tons of ppl who
cannot find jobs.
'hope this helps


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802.11 and TCP/IP are actually reasonably hot now.
Add WinCE and you're set. ;-)

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When I graduated in 96 I had 3 offers, but recently, I was unemployed
for a year.  Finding a good job is a lot more difficult nowadays.

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A very good advice.  Some employers always look for college grads
(they're a lot cheaper ;-) but those jobs hardly ever get advertised
in the same way as jobs for experienced people, especially now.



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WinCE? I hardly see any ads in Silicon Valley for WinCE jobs. Is there a big
demand elsewhere in the nation?

I see more Linux or some RTOS experience listed with the 802.11 and TCP/IP.

To study up on Linux, there's probably all sorts of stuff on the Internet. You
might want to check out the O'Reilly books "Understanding the Linux Kernel" and
"Writing Linux Device Drivers". For RTOS knowledge, there's the book
"MicroC/OS-II: The Real-Time Kernel" from CMP Books. Comes with a CDROM with
source for the RTOS as well as ports for the PC.


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Come up to Seattle and you'll see some....
(this isn't an erndorsement of WinCE, BTW)



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Wince is frequently on Toronto job listings, but those tend to be a
dumping ground for every buzzword around.  It's hard to tell who's
actually using it or just covering themselves for possible future
directions.  (With the current supply/demand situation, why not ask for
the Moon?)

--
Ron Sharp.
Interview tomorrow, mild woohoo!



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The soon (?!) to be released product I'm testing
is based on Wince, and IMHO it's worse than
anything I've worked so far.  One of the hottest
issue hinges on a bugfix from M$....    there's a couple
of openings to become a perm (I'm a contractor) and
what I'm seeing so far is kinda depressing.


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OP was in 2004.  How has this changed in 2009? (I'm in Canada)



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Given the lack of context in your post, all I can say is: it's about 5
years later.

Bob

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