In article , Jim Thompson writes
Well he appears a lot less of a hillbilly than the idiot in the White House at the moment.
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Naaah! That's just west Texas. You just don't appreciate his humor ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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This is one time I can agree with Mr. Hill's opinion regarding U.S. government...
He appears to have the intelligence to be a fence post on the Staked Plain.
You just have "blue" bias... may Indian Wells be overrun with Mexicans ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Old Latin teachers never die...they just decline
The James Herriot books are based in the Yorkshire Dales IIRC. The word dales is from the Norse word for valley. That area is green and largely agricultural.
The Black Country is exactly the opposite: it was so named because it was blackened by the pollution of heavy industry. It was a heavy coal consuming area in the industrial revolution.
It isn't really black anymore, as industry became less heavy and polluting, but the name stuck.
My wife's from Boston, or actually a bit down the coast. She's usually speaks intelligibly (she is a Speech Pathologist, after all) but whenever she goes back there for a week or two she comes back saying "cawh" and "ment-al" and weird stuff like that for a while.
Going from the hoots and hollers to MIT must have been a strange transition. I have a book, "Up The Infinite Corridor" that talks about MIT, how kids that were the smartest student in the history of Cedar Rapids go there and find themselves cold, lonely, and at the bottom of the intellectual heap, and too often commit suicide as a result.
I went to Tulane, where they honor the "Gentlemen's C"...pay your tuition, show up for finals, don't get the Dean's daughter pregnant, and you'll pass.
John
The Back country still has a very strong regional accent. BTW Virgil Earp, Wyatt Earp and Morgan Earp of the Gunfight at the OK Corral fame were from Dudley. Now imagine that famous scene in the film in a Black Country accent.... :-)
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Well the general opinion in the UK of GW Bush is that he his a moron and a puppet president who does as he is told. This is especially true of people who have met him (other than politicians who have to keep up the pretence)....
This is not a matter of political bias. Several people with no political interests have met him and said he was clue less. This is apart from his public displays of ineptitude.
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AFAICT, that seems to be the consensus in Australia as well -- even among conservatives.
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I thought Australia was solidly behind the Bush invasion of Iraq?
As it happens I am usually considered to be right of centre also Ex military. So I am not exactly a bleeding heart liberal ;-)
Ironically the two more right wing countries in Europe, Germany and Austria would not even let US transport planes over fly on the way to the Gulf.
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The government was. I got the impression that the majority of the population wasn't.
But, even people I talked to who agreed with Rove/Cheney/Rumsfeld policies still seemd to think that Bush was dumb as post.
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In article , Chris Hills writes
I stand corrected
In message , Eric Schwartz writes
I was told they were from Dudley by a "historian" and I must admit I took it at face value without checking.
However it is an amusing picture for those who know the Dudley accent! :-)
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My understanding (I am not Australian and I have seen Kangaroos only in pictures,) is that the government supported the invasion, the Australian people did not.
In any case Australia, as one of the small contributors to the military apparatus, would be lumped together with one of the four main members of the so called "coalition": The United States, Great Britain, England and The United Kingdom.
I mentioned this to a friend from that neck of the woods just now. He responded:
In article , Steve at fivetrees writes
I got sent this......
In message , Eric Schwartz writes
SO where was he born? Black country UK or Illinois
Re U571..... Not saying it is false (other than wrong year, wrong ocean and wrong navy) but the makers of the film had to donate a LOT of money to a UK ex-services charity and paid for the Colin Grazer memorial in Tamworth. Who is Colin? the RN AB Seaman who died retrieving the enigma code book. U571 will never be shown in Tamworth out of respect for the people who really did get the code book.
Then there is Saving Private Ryan which forgets to mention that the first people ashore were the Royal Navy Beach Masters.... Now you might wonder what they were doing on US navy ships. Well they weren't. The US troops were put ashore by the British Navy. The US Navy were not there. Though one lot of US navy ships did manage to sink the British Navy MTB's that were there to protect them...
Originally the film about Bletchly Park (in the UK where the worlds first electronic computers were used and Enigma was broken) was going to be made sighting Bletchly Park in the US of A until Mick Jagger (of the Rolling Stones) got involved. He was so incensed that they wanted to make out it all happened in the US and that the US (after recovering the Enigma book from U571) invented computers and broke the codes that he financed the film so it was made in it correct location in the UK with a more accurate screen play.
I also understand that the families of the British Officers portrayed in Patriot were so upset by the incorrect portrayal of their family members and the rose tinted picture of the character played by Mel Gibson that they sued for defamation of character and an injunction on the film. I think it was settled (for a large sum) out of court.
Amusingly given the US attitude to the French and the middle east I am informed from a very good source that one of the films about the US Delta force commandos is actually a reasonably accurate representation of a French operation in the Middle East....
Finally Blackhawk down is so far removed from the truth that about the only accurate parts are that a helicopter came down and a lot of people were killed. In reality most of the casualties were unarmed civilians. Much like Iraq now.
So Hollywood is very good at re-writing history. There are two that I know of it did not make. One was the Colditz story showing how the US men there ran the escape system and showing all their escapes. In fact there were very few Americans there and they took not part in escape activities much less attempted any escapes.
The other film that might have been was the Michael Jackson Story. Apparently he wanted a white child to play him in his younger years.... Strange!
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Yes, I saw. I quoted my Black Country friend not to add to the argument, but to show that our Black Country historian friends agreed with one another, rightly or wrongly ;). Also couldn't resist posting the Dudley-accented quote - it tickled me...
No idea ;).
I'm a Station X history nut. I've read probably every book there is on the subject. So: nice to hear about the donations.
I'm also a Battle of Britain and D-Day nut. To be fair, Omaha Beach was the toughest one. The Brits and the Canadians had a far easier time, although the US leaders disdained the use of the "funnies" which proved so successful at clearing beach obstacles elsewhere...
Small correction: it's "Bletchley Park" (with an 'e'). The film was fairly decent and fairly accurate - simplified (understandably) in part, but not too revisionist. (Jagger bought the film rights, and was executive producer.)
Indeed. Colditz was primarily for RAF officers.
"Michael Jackson" and "strange" - you don't see those words together often, do you? ;)
Steve
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