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There is far better C51 software available for free. I would also suggest that you are a novice at embedded code.
Further I think you really should (and very quickly) remove most of your web site before people see it. You are probably in a LOT more trouble than you realise.
Regards Chris
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No, I'm yet to spout off about anyone, Bob. I have merely requested an apparently psychic critic, of code that he has not seen, to qualify himself as a credible source of comment. As he has secreted his identity, then I think it incumbent upon him to reverse the situation.
No, I am on very solid ground to defend against all accusations of being a spammer, Bob. 'News' of a website that operates at a heavy loss, as a public service to the appreciative division of the embedded community, could hardly be regarded as unsolicited commercial advertising, or 'spam'.
The fact that I now impose a 'token' contribution toward code distribution costs alone, seems to highly inflame a certain 'drag-em- down' element. I'm happy for that sector to seek resources elsewhere. This is indeed the intent of the software distribution policy I have adopted, and one that is my certain right.
More psychic code commentary. How about I give you Reinhart's e-mail address, and you can indulge your child-like desires to intimidate by telling on me to him?
No odder than you suddenly deciding to change your own name from "Murray R. Van Luyn" to "Muzza" in the middle of a thread.
You'll have to excuse us not taking your word for that.
So let's see: _you_ claim to know what somebody who you emphasize never having heard of before, has or has not seen, and in the same sentence accuse _them_ of being "apparently psychic". Now that's rich. Oh, and a great way to destroy any credibility you might have had left, too.
In your dreams. Whether you consider that PayPal contribution a "very affordable investment" or a "token" doesn't matter in the least. It makes your website a commercial one, and unsolicited advertising for it spam.
I think you might need to read the thread again, Hans. I don't seem to remember doing what you have suggested.
Hmm...you might need to make that a little simpler for me to understand, Hans. I really don't mean to sound sarcastic, but I've read it a few times, and yet I can't seem to get a clear grip on your point.
Okay, you're in the 'all software is my free right' camp then, I see. You're entitled to your view that news of my benevolent contribution is spam then, be it a mis-informed and perverse misperception, or otherwise. I'm sorry that my efforts to best serve the embedded community seem to offend you so deeply.
I don't. I just need to look at the attribution lines above. I've taken the liberty to mark them ^^^^^^ for you.
Whether you remember it or not is quite irrelevant. You did do it, though.
Well, then let's make it blunt: you can take that characterization as an "apparently psychic critic" and stick it onto your own forehead. That's exactly the place where it belongs.
You claim you know what cbarn... has seen. Yet you insist you've never seen or heard of him before. So either you're just making these things up as you go, or you must be just the kind of telepath you want to discredit others as.
No, you don't see. You're imagining things to fit your prejudices. You can give away your software for free, or you can charge for it, it doesn't matter to me. I rather doubt I would want any of it either way.
You get to choose whether your site should be commercial or not. Your choice was to make it commercial. So you'll be held to the rules applicable to commercial services --- and one of those is that unsolicited advertisement for them is, by definitionm, spam.
And frankly, this "holier-than-thou" attitude of yours, projecting yourself as the benevolent saviour of all embedded-kind, and anyone who dares criticize you as some kind of deviant, sucks.
No. That information is not news, because for that it would have to be new (it's not), interesting (it might be), and factually accurate (it's not).
Posting this "news" here, OTOH, is unsolicited advertisement for a commercial service. Which, whether you like it, qualifies as a textbook-perfect example of spam.
Well, that about tears it, Hans. Regrettably, I'm now sincerely glad that my token contribution, software distribution policy does offend you. Previously, working my ass off to ply individuals as similarly unappreciative as yourself, with totally gratis software, just made me miserable. I'm quite happy that you have such an aversion to my contribution, as you are indeed well included amongst the ungrateful individuals I wish not to be working so hard for.
It greatly pleases me to know that the products of my very considerable and un-rewarded development efforts, and not inconsiderable out of pocket expenses, may be so successfully restricted to those that CAN appreciate my news posting for what it was. That is, as a non-spam, not-for-profit item of relevant and potential interest. As has been correctly mentioned numerous times in this thread, there are infinite resource alternatives to adequately suit those of a different mindset.
Right, that's about enough of this junior-school level nonsense. Anyone want to hear some twisted dead baby jokes, instead?
I am most certainly not in that camp but I agree with Hans.
It is not a "benevolent contribution" It is just not worth the money you are asking. Or any money come to that there is a lot of far better Sw out there for free. SO why pay for your sub standard code.
Reading the legal stuff on your web site the only person you are serving is yourself.
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I don't need you to give me anyone's email address. I have known Reinhard personally for many years, by which I mean face to face in real life. However it is Mark Onions or Rene Fabricius you need to talk to before you use an ARM trade mark.
As a Keil distributor (and for several years I was Keil UK Ltd) and many years of actually using the Keil C51 in real projects apart from a decade of Keil tech support I have seen a lot of Keil C51 code and the only use of your web site is the legal statements. You seem to have spent more time on those than the code. Pity you do not understand them.
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