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Hej jeg leder efter lidt udstyr til HF brug.

er der nogen som kender til en billig frekvenstæller den skal min. kunne
tælle til 1GHz og kunne måle i syntheser osv.

"så det nytter ikke noget at den kun kan måle et 5V TTL signal :)"

ydermere leder jeg efter en spektrum analysator sådan en man kobler til sit
scop i XY modus denne må gerne kunne måle til 1GHz også men ihverfald 500MHz
er et krav

kan man få sådan noget som byggesæt syntes kun at jeg kan finde alt muligt
halvfærdigt rundt omkring

om end ikke byggesæt så bare et sted man kan købe det billigt, måske brugt ?

m.v.h.
lasse madsen



Re: byggesæt ? (spektrumanalyser, f rekvenstæller)

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Hej Lasse

Du bF8%r ogsE5% se pE5% ByggesE6%t fra Velleman (f.eks. hos20%
http://www.brinck.dk/ ) udover adresser og referencer herunder.

Her er nogle internet adresser - kig under overskriften "Reparation og20%
mE5%leteknik":
http://akira.ruc.dk/~glenn/elektronik.html

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Her er nogle E6%ldre BibTex formaterede referencer du kunne se pE5%, hvis=
 du20%
er nysgerrig. Der stE5%r hvilke kredse de hovedsageligt er baseret pE5%. =

Check isE6%r de nyere artikler:

"Billig" 200MHz diagram - tilsluttes et oscilloskop:
@article{,
     author 3D% "Glyn Roberts",
     title 3D% "A3%100 winner: 200MHz spectrum analyser displays to -75dB=
",
     journal 3D% "Electronics World & Wireless World",
     pages 3D% "500--501",
     year 3D% "1996",
     publisher 3D% "Reed Elsevier group",
     url 3D% "http://www.reedbusiness.com/ and http://www.r-e.com/ and20%
http://www.reedbusiness.com/products/electronics_world.asp and20%
http://www.softcopy.co.uk/electronics%20world%20index.htm ",
     keywords 3D% "POS-400, SLB-1, Toko 272MT-1127F, NE/SE605, CFSK107M5,=
20%
LP2905"
}


@article{Labbrozzi96,
     author 3D% "Felice Labbrozzi",
     title 3D% "Designing for spectrum analysis",
     journal 3D% "Electronics World & Wireless World",
     pages 3D% "488--494",
     year 3D% "1996",
     publisher 3D% "Reed Elsevier group",
     url 3D% "http://www.reedbusiness.com/ and http://www.r-e.com/ and20%
http://www.reedbusiness.com/products/electronics_world.asp and20%
http://www.softcopy.co.uk/electronics%20world%20index.htm ",
     keywords 3D% "variable quartz filter, MAR4, MAR6, MD304, BF961,20%
2N3819, BA379, U664, 40673, SBL1, BFR91, BF970"
}

@article{,
     title 3D% "1GHz frekvenstE6%ller FZ 7000",
     journal 3D% "PopulE6%r Elektronik",
     pages 3D% "84--89",
     year 3D% "1985",
     keywords 3D% "LS7031, TIL702  4511, U440, NE529, U664,CA3240"
}

@article{,
     title 3D% "1GHz frekvenstE6%ller FZ 7000",
     journal 3D% "PopulE6%r Elektronik",
     pages 3D% "100--104",
     year 3D% "1985",
     keywords 3D% "LS7031, TIL702  4511, U440, NE529, U664,CA3240"
}


@book{,
     booktitle 3D% "ARRL book",
     title 3D% "600MHz frekvenstE6%ller",
     organization 3D% "American radio amateur league ARRL",
     pages 3D% "16,14--16,16",
     publisher 3D% "American radio amateur league ARRL",
     keywords 3D% "11C90, MPF102, TIL308, TIL306"
}

@article{,
     title 3D% "650MHz frekvenstE6%ller 1",
     journal 3D% "Ny Elektronik",
     pages 3D% "34--35",
     year 3D% "1981",
     publisher 3D% "Polyteknisk forlag, AiO Tryk AS, Odense",
     keywords 3D% "11C90, OM361"
}

@article{,
     title 3D% "650MHz frekvenstE6%ller 2",
     journal 3D% "Ny Elektronik",
     year 3D% "1981",
     publisher 3D% "Polyteknisk forlag, AiO Tryk AS, Odense",
     keywords 3D% "11C90, OM361"
}


@article{,
     author 3D% "Anders BF8%cher",
     title 3D% "650MHz frekvenstE6%ller 3",
     journal 3D% "Ny Elektronik",
     pages 3D% "32--35",
     year 3D% "1981",
     publisher 3D% "Polyteknisk forlag, AiO Tryk AS, Odense",
     keywords 3D% "11C90, OM361"
}


@article{,
     title 3D% "88 Universal digital meter",
     journal 3D% "Elektor",
     pages 3D% "7,84--7,85",
     year 3D% "1981",
     url 3D% "http://www.elektor-electronics.co.uk /",
     keywords 3D% "CA3162,CA3161,LF356"
}


@article{,
     author 3D% "Jens Engelbredt OZ1GMP",
     title 3D% "En prescaler til frekvenstE6%lleren",
     journal 3D% "OZ",
     pages 3D% "454--499",
     year 3D% "1979",
     publisher 3D% "Eksperimenterende danske radioamatF8%rer EDR",
     keywords 3D% "U664B, U634BS, 74167  7805, BF324"
}

@article{,
     title 3D% "Frequency read-out for SW receiver",
     journal 3D% "Elektor",
     pages 3D% "39--44",
     year 3D% "1988",
     url 3D% "http://www.elektor-electronics.co.uk /",
     keywords 3D% "4511  74HC190"
}

@article{,
     author 3D% "Bernhard C. ZschF6%cke",
     title 3D% "GHz-universalzE4%hler",
     journal 3D% "Elektor",
     pages 3D% "8--16",
     year 3D% "1992",
     publisher 3D% "Bent Sterndorff og Nycomed DAK",
     url 3D% "http://www.elektor.de /",
     keywords 3D% "80C32"
}


@article{,
     author 3D% "Bernhard C. ZschF6%cke",
     title 3D% "GHz-universalzE4%hler",
     journal 3D% "Elektor",
     pages 3D% "70--74",
     year 3D% "1992",
     publisher 3D% "Bent Sterndorff og Nycomed DAK",
     url 3D% "http://www.elektor.de /",
     keywords 3D% "80C32"
}


@article{,
     author 3D% "Fred Baumgartner",
     title 3D% "Spectrum monitor",
     journal 3D% "Radio-Electronics",
     number 3D% "9",
     pages 3D% "33--36",
     year 3D% "1989",
     publisher 3D% "McGraw-Hill Book Company, Inc",
     keywords 3D% "spectrum analyzer 600 MHz"
}

mvh/Glenn


Re: byggesæt ? (billig frekvenstæll er)
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Hej Lasse

Med en prescaler (se forrige mail) kan denne billige frekvenstE6%ller20%
f.eks. klare 1GHz:

The Weeder Frequency Counter PIC 16F84 port by Peter Cousens (50MHz):
http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/weedfreq.htm

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Mere PIC information:

Beginners checklist for PICs:
http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/begin.htm

[God] PIClist:
http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/index.htm
PICList Projects
http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/projects.htm

http://www.bdg2.ukgateway.net/Links.html

http://o.webring.com/hub?ring3D%picmicro

[God information]
Starting with PICmicro controllers
intro, first steps, tips, links, etc.
(C) 2002 Wouter van Ooijen ( snipped-for-privacy@voti.nl)
http://www.voti.nl/swp /

gputils
GNU PIC Utilities
http://gputils.sourceforge.net/

PIC & Linux:
http://www.yty.net/pic/enindex.html

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ftp://ftp.epemag.wimborne.co.uk/pub/PICS /

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PIC Micro Robotics
http://alsrobotics.botic.com/picindex.html
http://www.botic.com/alsrobotics/armram.html

Pic Micro Autonomous robot
http://www.botic.com/alsrobotics/picmicro.html




mvh/Glenn

Re: byggesæt ? (billig frekvenstæller)
Hej Glenn

jeg har selv overvejet at lave en med en 128/129-64/65 prescaler men jeg
syntes ikke rigtigt at jeg kan finde et sted at købe en modolus tæller :(

m.v.h.¨
lasse



Re: byggesæt ? (billig frekvenstæller)
Hej Lasse

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Hos http://www.funkamateur.de/ i deres online shop kan du
finde lidt frekvenstæller kits.

Mvh Max


Re: byggesæt ? (billig frekvenstæll er- chips - lidt mere om spektrumanalysere)
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Hej Lasse

Du bF8%r gE5% efter low-power prescaler kredse som anvendes i mobiltelefo=
ner20%
eller satellit (DBS) modtagere. Du skal enten selv finde prescalerens20%
datablad (check om prescaleren opfylder dine krav) eller bede om at fE5% =

databladet medsendt ved kF8%b.

Nogle specielle kredse (nyere low-power prescalere) kan bestilles hos20%
http://www.brinck.dk/ eller http://www.vejle-rc.dk/ - hvis de kan20%
skaffes via deres kontakter (mod forudbetaling).

Eksempler pE5% prescalers/sF8%gninger:

Barend Hendriksen HF Electronics.
RF and special electronics for the world:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~barendh/Indexeng.htm

Special ic's:
UPB1505GR (>3D%MC12079, MB506)  64/128/256 divider 4 GHz (pincomp. MB506P=
F20%
but faster)  12.48 [vistnok Euro].
SDA4212(>3D%SAB6456A)   DIP8 prescaler 1.7GHz :/64-128  5.50 [vistnok Euro]:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~barendh/Cateng/Cateng_ic.htm

Ved sF8%gning pE5% Google:

http://www.google.dk/search?q3D%prescaler+%22low-power%22
http://www.google.dk/search?q3D%prescaler+chip

findes bl.a.:

Vejvisere:

Datasheet Library - Prescalers. Harry Lythall - SM0VPO:
http://hem.passagen.se/sm0vpo/prescal/list.htm

http://rf.rfglobalnet.com/library/DataSheets/companies/motorola.htm

ON Semiconductor (firmanavn) Prescaler (PLL):
http://www.onsemi.com/site/products/parametrics/0,4446,513,00.html

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Henkel Microwave Spectrum ANALYZER ON A BUDGET:
http://www.arrl.org/qex/Henkel.pdf
Citat: "...
1[,]7 GHz prescaler [MC12079 baseret (3D%MB506 / UPB1505 ?)]
2E%..
Referencer:
Robert Richardson, W4UCH, "Low cost Spectrum Analyzer with Kilobuck20%
Features," Ham Radio, September 1986, page 82.
2E%.."

MECL PLL COMPONENTS F7% 64/128/256 PRESCALER:
http://f5ad.free.fr/Docs_Composants/MC12079.pdf

MC12095 2.5 GHz Low Power Prescaler With Stand-By Mode:
http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/MC12095-D.PDF
http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheet/M/MC12095-D.shtml

MC12093 F7% 2, F7% 4, F7% 8 1.1 GHz Low Power Prescaler with Stand-By:
http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/MC12093-D.PDF

ZL40800 6 GHz Fixed Modulus Divide 8 Prescaler:
http://products.zarlink.com/product_profiles/ZL40800.htm

October 2003. Multi-Modulus Divider IC Covers DC - 40 GHz Range;20%
Features Simultaneous Divide-by - 2/4/8 Outputs:
http://www.centellax.com/news/CNTXprescaleric.shtml

VHF/UHF Prescaler (Philips SAB6456A):
http://www.qsl.net/zl1bpu/micro/CNTR/Prescaler.htm
Citat: "...The recommended Prescaler is ridiculously simple. It consists =

of just one IC, a TV tuner prescaler, the Philips SAB6456A, which can20%
divide by 64 or by 256. This chip is widely available both new and in20%
the surplus market at much lower prices than conventional divide by 1020%
prescalers.
2E%..
[Disse noter gE6%lder sikkert ogsE5% andre prescalere:]
2E%..
Note:
# It is quite normal for the SAB6456A prescaler device to oscillate20%
lightly at about 60 - 70 MHz when there is no input signal. This effect20%
is described in the Philips data sheet. It is easy to tell when this is20%
happening, because the reading will not be stable. As soon as a good20%
signal is received, the oscillation stops. The Counter is of course20%
completely stable at all times.
# The prescaler may be more stable with no input if the input is20%
terminated by a 50 Ohm resistor, however this will be at the cost of20%
some sensitivity.
# Be careful not to overload the device. The maximum input is 300mV, so20%
do not connect the Prescaler directly to a transmitter or exciter.
2E%.."

Andre:

1 GHz Prescaler:
http://www.bitscope.com/design/hardware/?p3D%5
http://www.elby-designs.com/bitscope/media/1ghz-prescaler.htm

April 2000 Microwave Prescaler Works With Little Power:
http://www.eepn.com/Locator/Products/ArticleID/20282/Action/Issue/20282.h =
tml


mvh/Glenn

Re: byggesæt ? (UPG506B: 6-14 GHz :8 prescaler)

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Hej Lasse

Her er en "pre"-prescaler:

UPG506B  Prescaler 7-14 GHz (typ. 6-15 GHz) :820%
44.92 [vistnok Euro]:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~barendh/Cateng/Cateng_ic.htm

mvh/Glenn

Re: byggesæt ?

nyhedsmeddelelse:40223224$0$30078$ snipped-for-privacy@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
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kunne
til sit
500MHz
muligt
brugt ?
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Læs: OZ

1999 for frekvenstæller.

2000 for målsender.

2001 for en spektrum analysator.

Der er masser af hjælp, at hente hos OZ1DV John Gregersen
http://home19.inet.tele.dk/oz1dv /

OZ kan lånes på biblioteket i hele årgange indbundet.

Ejvind Andersen
Fjern"xx"





Re: byggesæt ? (PIC baseret frekven stæller - endnu en og andre interessante konstruktioner)

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ske brugt ?
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Hej Lasse

Her er endnu en PIC baseret frekvenstE6%ller - ogsE5% med diagram og pres=
caler.

UNIVERSAL FREQUENCY COUNTER 1.3GHz:
http://jaja.kn.vutbr.cz/~michal/Dokumentace/Counter/Frequency%20counter.p =
df

Program pro PIC16F84 [Objektkode/hex]:
http://jaja.kn.vutbr.cz/~michal/Dokumentace/Counter/counter.zip

Tjekkisk hovedadresse:
http://jaja.kn.vutbr.cz/~michal/Dokumentace/Counter/counter.htm

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Hovedadresse har nogle interessante konstruktioner med engelske/franske20%
beskrivelser. Klik pE5% billederne for mere information. De fleste20%
pdf-filer er pE5% engelsk selvom web-sidens titler er pE5% tjekkisk:
http://jaja.kn.vutbr.cz/~michal/Dokumentace/Konstrukce_projekty.htm

mvh/Glenn

Re: byggesæt ? (PIC baserede frekve nstællere - endnu nogle)

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Hej Dennis

Her er endnu en PIC baseret frekvenstE6%ller med god beskrivelse, diagram=
20%
og assembler-kildekode(godt kommenteret - pE5% tysk) - med og uden presca=
lere:

1-GHz-FrequenzzE4%hler
mit 16F84 und LCD-Display:
http://www.sprut.de/electronic/pic/projekte/frequenz/freq_gh.htm

Frequenzanzeige fFC%r einen UKW-EmpfE4%nger
mit 16F84 und LCD-Display:
http://www.sprut.de/electronic/pic/projekte/10_7/10_7.htm

50 MHz-FrequenzzE4%hler
mit 16F84 und LCD-Display:
http://www.sprut.de/electronic/pic/projekte/frequenz/freq.htm

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PIC baseret frekvenstE6%ller med diagram og hex-kode - SAB6456 prescaler =

baseret:

1 GHz Counter.
This simple counter is useful for frequency measurements of various20%
wireless equipments, especially transmitters,
receivers and signal generators in VHF/UHF band:
http://ufukdumlu.sitemynet.com/coun/coun.htm
Citat: "...
Features
1-) Display range: 0,0 to 999,9 MHz, resolution 0,1 MHz
2-) Correct rounding, reduced blinking of last digit
3-) Over-range indication
4-) Fast measurement - short measuring period
5-) High input sensitivity in VHF/UHF band
6-) Switchable 10,7 MHz intermediate frequency offset for use with receiv=
er
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1-Jun-86, SAB6456; SAB6456T; Sensitive 1 GHz divide-by-64/divide-by-25620%
switchable prescaler:
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/SAB6456_T_CNV_2.html

mvh/Glenn

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