Rational Question: Analog Electronic Chip

Hi:

Please forgive my past messages. Currently I have a sensible question. Just out of curiosity.

Is there such thing as an analog chip that consists only of analog circuits?

A purely analog device that stores information in an analog electric chips.

I also like to know how *analog* electronic chips store information. Digital chips store on/off signals [1 = higher voltage or current while 0 = lower voltage or current].

Where can I find technical information on these analog electronic chips.

The stuff below is *not* purely-analog or digital. It uses sampling but without quantization so it sort of halfway between analog and digital.

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What I am talking about is a storage device consisting of a purely- analog electronic chip that does not use sampling or quantization. Just analog signals similar to the telephone audio used in the 1980s.

Could such a chip be used to store audio that fits the dynamic range and frequency response of the human auditory system?

Once again, I have no application in this question. Digital technology obviously has a potential to provide better quality than analog technology. So I am asking my question simply because I am just in it for the science.

Any assistance, understanding, and cooperation on this matter -- along with forgiveness for my past messages -- are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Radium

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Radium
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Look up "op amp".

There is no such thing. (other than, possibly, some esoteric experimental lab devices.)

With a capacitor.

Maybe you should give your local public library a visit.

Good Luck! Rich

Reply to
Rich Grise

If there can be a digital storage chip, why can't there be the analog equivalent?

Reply to
Radium

How about an analog sample-and-hold circuit? That stores data in the form of an analog voltage. I don't know if any are still being manufactured, since the shift to digitize-and-hold.

Reply to
Stephen J. Rush

Bucket brigade analog shift register, storing and transporting kilosamples of analog data.

Reply to
Sjouke Burry

"Analog" and "digital," strictly speaking, refer only to means of encoding information. Circuits themselves are neither analog or digital, although those terms are very commonly used to refer to classes of circuitry or designs which are optimized for dealing with information encoded in one of these two forms. For example, what we commonly call "digital" electronics are simply those in which the active devices are, in normal operation, operating either in saturation or cut-off. Although there's been exceptions to that, too - take a look at the old "ECL" form of logic chips.

To the extent that information is stored in analog form (for instance, in the storage capacitor of each sub-pixel of an active matrix display), it's "stored" as a voltage or current.

"Sampled" does not necessarily imply "digital."

Bob M.

Reply to
Bob Myers

Maybe but that device posted in the link does seem to use PAM [Pulse Amplitude Modulation] which is neither digital nor analog but something in between. A true analog electronic chip-based storage device would simply store an electrical equivalent of the signal -- i.e. the electrical waveforms generated by the attched microphone as it picks up sound. A louder sound would result in a greater difference in voltages than a softer sound, and a higher-pitched sound would result in a more rapidly-alternating electric current than a lower- pitched sound.

Reply to
Radium

Wow, Radium, you sure have some basic reading to do!

Where is it gonna "store" this "equivalent"? on a little reel of tape?

Reply to
contrex

Eh, troll boy?

Reply to
contrex

The Chipcorder MLS (multi Level Storage) voice recording chips use a form of analog storage I believe.

Dave.

Reply to
David L. Jones

In a chip that contains capacitors to store the electric charges of the AC current generated by the microphone when exposed to sound.

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Radium

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Capacitors can\'t store AC.
Reply to
John Fields

True. However, one set of capacitors can store a forward DC, while another set can store DC in reverse. So during "playback" the end result will be an AC current.

Reply to
Radium

Oops, didn't follow that link in your original post, same thing.

Dave.

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David L. Jones

In all fairness to our pet net-kook, ths is one time when he has, (at least in IMHO), a reasonable point. PAM & PWM do, arguably, straddle the digital & analog domains. (That said, I won't be surprised if he takes this tiny bit of support as an endorsement for his other, totally whacky beliefs...)

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Reply to
Lionel

Why do you think there is something "in between" analog and digital encoding? What, exactly, would that mean?

Bob M.

Reply to
Bob Myers

How are you going to arrange this "playback"? How will you arrange for it to happen more than once?

Reply to
contrex

They are not, in my opinion, "beliefs". They are convenient tools with which he manipulates newsgroups. Radium is a classic troll, nothing more, nothing less. He does what he does for amusement. The longer he can spin this out, the more his infantile crippled ego will be gratified. If you view this group in Google Groups, click on "view profile" at the top of one of his posts, and see what other posts he has made recently. In particular, the "contribution" he made recently in alt.fan.mozilla, where he started a thread entitled "Mozilla is better than Firefox. Hail to Mozilla!". The post he made consisted of "Firefox is so creepy, frightening, disgusting, terrifying, irritating, and annoying." followed by this line -

Mozilla is better than Firefox!

- repeated 288 times with blank lines in between.

When the amount of attention he was getting began to flag, he posted this little gem:

"I still maintain:

Mozilla = the fresh, bright, warm, rejuvenating, refreshing aroma of sour red-&-green peaches

Firefox = stinky thick stinky foamy human diarrhea kakaa foam of a human who eats stale cheddar cheese and sticky milk chocolate and rotten lentils

Firefox stinks like stinky thick stinky foamy human diarrhea kakaa foam of a human who eats stale cheddar cheese and sticky milk chocolate and rotten lentils"

He has posted the rather revealing "kakaa foam" effort in other places too.

He managed to reel in enough suckers to create a thread 29 posts long!

He reminds me very much of an infant who thinks himself very clever for having retrieved some feces from his diaper and smeared it all over his nursery, and it is for that reason that I suspect that he has fairly pronuunced mental health and/or developmental issues.

Reply to
contrex

Qbits?

Reply to
contrex

In a similar way in which audio can be played back from a digital chip. Excepts its all analog and with no need for a carrier signal. The capacitors can store the audio permanenetly as long as new audio is not recorded over it. This is like a purely-analog RAM chip with only the modulation signal. No bits or samples. Just the electrical- equivalent of the sound waves that enter the attached microphone.

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Radium

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