What level is your initial signal source, 0->5V, or 0->15V ? ...Jim Thompson
What level is your initial signal source, 0->5V, or 0->15V ? ...Jim Thompson
-- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | STV, Queen Creek, AZ 85142 Skype: skypeanalog | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Thinking outside the box... producing elegant solutions. "It is not in doing what you like, but in liking what you do that is the secret of happiness." -James Barrie
When used in the same configuration, both NPN and PNP will invert the signal. Inversion is a function of circuit topology. A common emitter circuit inverts. The common base and common collector circuits do not invert.
-- Rick C
5v (Arduino PWM output port).
Ok thanks. I'll look into the common collector circuit then.
Michael
Just drive it with the Arduino output. That should be fine.
George H.
The common collector configuration provides no voltage gain, only current gain. Will that work for you?
The common emitter configuration provides no current gain, but provides voltage gain.
The bottom line is driving MOSFETs has been done before and optimized. Why reinvent the wheel?
-- Rick C
Ah. That explains a lot. No.
To make it fun, and to learn something new.
I suppose I'll try using the inverting common emitter and just update my Arduino code with analogWrite( 255 - value ).
Thanks,
Michael
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That's what I'm doing now, with an IRLZ34N.
Yeah, perhaps adding a PN2222 to amplify the voltage will introduce more losses than the Rds,on loss I'm taking by operating at just 5V (below Vgs,max).
I found this. Pretty. $0.57 for one, Rds,on = 6.2 mOhm (~10 mOhm at 5v).
Michael
That is certainly a valid reason.
I'm a bit confused. Is this a discrete control or a proportional control? What exactly is this controlling?
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Where does the analog output come in?
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Does this clarify?
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Not really. If you are driving this with a PWM signal, that is just on or off with variable timing. That would normally be driven by writing a one or a zero to an I/O pin. Writing an integer to a DAC gives signal with many values that will turn the drive on to a range of strengths which is pretty much the opposite of PWM. Or are you calculating a value of 0 or 255 and nothing in between to drive the DAC?
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Oh, I guess the Arduino is unique then.
Here's a description of analogWrite.
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No, it's not unique, I'm just not familiar with the libraries for the Arduino. This one is called "analog" when it is actually PWM. I expect it uses PWM hardware built into the MCU chip you are using. There is no DAC, it is a counter/timer instead.
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I can't imagine a PWM timer would only work up to 500 Hz. Rather than relying on canned I/O routines, I suggest you read the data sheet for your device and program the PWM counter directly. I think the library code is leaving out a *lot* of capability.
-- Rick C
What are the source/sink current specs on the Arduino output pin? ...Jim Thompson
-- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | STV, Queen Creek, AZ 85142 Skype: skypeanalog | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Thinking outside the box... producing elegant solutions. "It is not in doing what you like, but in liking what you do that is the secret of happiness." -James Barrie
It looks like 20 mA per pin. The Arduino Uno that I'm using uses an ATmega328p.
Michael
I don't think that is the relevant spec. That number if a guaranteed spec for continuous operation. To determine the rise/fall time of the gate voltage you need to know the *actual* current over the range of voltage as the gate capacitance charges. They may have a curve showing this, but it won't be a single number.
-- Rick C
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