You didn't build that...

formatting link
...Jim Thompson

-- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at

formatting link
| 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Reply to
Jim Thompson
Loading thread data ...

It's astounding and unsurprising at the same time.

--

Reply in group, but if emailing add one more
zero, and remove the last word.
Reply to
Tom Del Rosso

Reply to
Michael A. Terrell

That's leftist manipulated data, just like ABC reported the Aurora shooter as a Tea Party member... a complete untruth.

But go ahead and vote Obama. I think the only cure for the fix we're in is depression followed by a civil war. ...Jim Thompson

-- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at

formatting link
| 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Reply to
Jim Thompson

On politics: HBO has an interesting new series called 'The newsroom' which addresses the problems caused by biased news. Oh, and there is some romance for the female audience.

--
Failure does not prove something is impossible, failure simply
indicates you are not using the right tools...
nico@nctdevpuntnl (punt=.)
--------------------------------------------------------------
Reply to
Nico Coesel

I like The Borgias... the Pope gets to bang every good looking young thing that wanders by ;-) ...Jim Thompson

-- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at

formatting link
| 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Reply to
Jim Thompson

Why would I vote for him this time, when I didn't the last time? In fact, I'm so fed up with the crap ads Obama 'approved of' that I am voting straight party for the first time in my life. In the past I spent days checking out every candidate on the ballot and picking who I thought was the best for the job. I also told you about getting a crooked politician in Ohio voted out of office after I sued him. He was a liberal. Do I need to say more?

The anti-Romney ads don't mention that their 'spokesman' Donnie Box doesn't like Obama, or that the steel mill pictured in that ad was closed in 2001 or that they went out on strike not long before it closed. It doesn't mention that productivity was still low after money was spent on new equipment. I grew up in a town with a unionized steel mill and I've never seen lazier, more corrupt people in any of my six decades on earth.

Reply to
Michael A. Terrell

And the guy they thought he was, with the same common name, is 28 years older. Great investigative reporting.

If a Muslim shoots up a military base, they report it like he's acting alone with no political affiliation, but other shooters are assumed to be affiliated with Republicans.

The divide between what we want and what they want is much greater than the divide between Federalists and Anti-Federalists ever was. If a divide like this existed in 1776 we would not have been able to unite. So, in truth, secession is the only real answer. We can't force them to accept what we want, and I really wouldn't want to. Of course they're happy to force us to take what they want - even if they don't have the votes and they need the courts to do it.

--

Reply in group, but if emailing add one more
zero, and remove the last word.
Reply to
Tom Del Rosso

From Al Reuters, the company that refuses to use the word terrorist without putting it in quotes.

They say: "Less than a decade later, the mill was padlocked and some 750 people lost their jobs."

If Bain bought the company with the intention of dismantling it, would it take 8 years to do that?

The previous owners were going to shut it down in 1993. Bain kept it afloat for as long as the union allowed.

See this:

formatting link

--

Reply in group, but if emailing add one more
zero, and remove the last word.
Reply to
Tom Del Rosso

You're preaching to the choir. A lot of companies fail, and it takes guts to take on the risks to try to save them. A lot of them will fail no matter what you do, but the whiners will always find fault.

Reply to
Michael A. Terrell

I'm not sure "guts" is what it takes do try to save a dying union shop. Opening a non-union, competitive, shop across the state line seems like a better move. Dump the baggage, as long as the market is still there.

Reply to
krw

One of the 'partners' in that deal was Armco Steel, based in Middletown, Ohio. It was another union steel mill that ended up being

51% owned by a Japanese company and renamed A-K Steel. That union showed its ass and ended up with all union members being replaced with new people. That steel mill was the first computerized hot strip in the US and was called 'Project 600' when it was built in the early '60s. By the time Kaiser Engineering finished screwing them, they had paid over 1.2 billion dollars instead of the original 600 million. The union workers at that plant and its sister plant in Hamilton, Ohio were the highest paid in the county yet they were constantly demanding more pay and benefits.
Reply to
Michael A. Terrell

afloat

Right. Even attempting to save it wasn't "guts". At the very least it was some pretty dense rose colored glasses.

Yet they weren't "overpaid". Unions always are.

Reply to
krw

afloat

Sounds like INCO (International Nickel Company) in my home town of Huntington, WV.

Employees were averaging $55/hour in wages and benefits in 1998. They were asked to hold at that rate because of low sales. The union refused and struck for more than three months. Then INCO filed for bankruptcy and walked away.

The buildings stood empty for many years. A new metal fabbing company has finally taken over the facilities... hiring at minimum wage with no benefits. ...Jim Thompson

--
| James E.Thompson, CTO                            |    mens     |
| Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems  |    manus    |
| Phoenix, Arizona  85048    Skype: Contacts Only  |             |
| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com |    1962     |
             
I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply to
Jim Thompson

without

afloat

The idiots deserved to lose those jobs.

Reply to
Michael A. Terrell

without

it

afloat

Yep. I agree. But, while visiting in WV, I keep my mouth shut, just like you do whilst in Ohio ;-) ...Jim Thompson

--
| James E.Thompson, CTO                            |    mens     |
| Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems  |    manus    |
| Phoenix, Arizona  85048    Skype: Contacts Only  |             |
| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com |    1962     |
             
I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply to
Jim Thompson

I haven't been back to Ohio in over 20 years. It seemed like there was always some union out on strike, threatening to strike or on a walkout.

Reply to
Michael A. Terrell

ElectronDepot website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.