W2k Not connecting via lan to W7 fixed itself.

Yep. Known problem that burned a few days for me troubleshooting the problem a few yeas ago: About 1/4 way down the page: "Make sure the clocks are in sync on Win 7 and Win2K boxes. Thats all it is. My Win2K clock was 2 hours two fast. Once I changed the time I was able to connect with no problems. I actually validated that by changing the clock again I had re-introduced the problem."

My version of the problem was to get AM and PM backwards.

My guess(tm) as to what's happening is that Windoze will sync the times from the "server" but not if the change is over some amount of difference in time. I'm fairly sure it's at least an hour, but not sure how much less. When the clock sync fails, it will produce an error message offering helpful suggestions that have nothing to do with the real problem. There should be an error in the "event viewer" but I'm too lazy tonite to check.

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That applies to the internet also.

I've fixed and build a few PCs, once in a while the BIOS is corrupt and now and then if you take the battery out it will reset to some factory mode or sometning. That's when it says "CMOS checksum error" and then it works.

When this happens it usually resets the time to like Jan 01, 2001. there we re a few times I tried to get on the net but a whole bunch of things would not open. It would complain about security certificates and whatnot.

Dailight saving time actually causes me a problem with certain internet for a etc. It now reports the time of posting an hour off, while when we are on right time they might say "posted 5 minutes ago". Now, even my posts say a n hour ago immediately. Not a big problem but noticable.

I see no need for DST myself. Businesses could simply have summer and withe r hours. The railroad disregards DST, probably because time is so important to them. In fact railroads were a major market for accurate time pieces. N owadays the cellphone rules, but at one time they had to go to great length s to get a pocket watch to keep time, at all angles. Adusting them became q uite an art.

But my point is that DST is a stupid idea, and while it doesn't come up all that much, I have found that alot of people seem to agree. In fact I don't set my clock twice a year. I just know the rest of the world is an hour sl ow, or fast, depending when I set the clock last. That would be after the l ast power outage.

DST isn't observed, here. While this *tends* to make *our* life a bit simpler, the downside is having to remember what is happening with the rest of the country wrt DST: "Are THEY two hours ahead of us, now? Or three??"

And, having to deal with sun-up at insane hours of the morning isn't fun.

I've been in AZ so long I remember the fight over DST or not. The drive-in theater bunch won the argument. It doesn't matter much to me, I get up with the Sun anyway. ...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.

and once you are that much south it doesn't make much difference anyway

Here I think the difference between the longest and shortest day is ~10hours

-Lasse

[snip].

Here's what I use... I don't know what it'll show you when you click it, I think it relies on a cookie to load my particular clock...

Mine displays San Jose, Phoenix, Denver, Chicago, Dallas, New York, Sherbrooke (Quebec), London, Amsterdam, Erfurt, Rome, Tel Aviv, New Delhi, Hong Kong, Adelaide (OZ) and Auckland (NZ). ...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.

I shouldn't have to consult a computer to know what time it is! :>

The annoying thing is that folks in other parts of the country are ignorant (or forgetful) of this. Lots of early morning calls that quickly turn into, "Ooops! I forgot you're on California time, now!" One of the primary motivations I had for discontinuing "phone contact" with clients!

And, while it is nice not to have to change all the clocks in the house (cars, etc.) every 6 months, I still have -- of all things -- an "atomic" clock that doesn't understand that DST is NOT universally observed! So, *it* has to be told "we've moved to California" (and then back).

[Actually, it is probably a blessing as seeing the time that *it* reports as being "wrong", twice yearly, is the only reminder I have that the rest of the world has "shifted".]

I don't think Microsoft distributed an updated time zone file for W2K when the US DST rules changed in 2007. There is a utility from Microsoft called TZEDIT that lets you edit the rules file yourself. Doing this may help you avoid this problem again this fall, next spring, etc.

Get TZEDIT from the link in

and instructions on using TZEDIT from .

If your W2K machine has Internet access (possibly not the best idea from a security standpoint), you could also run NISTime to update its clock.

Matt Roberds

Yes, I found the TZedit.exe. I would be curious as to what this little app is actually doing? Like what reg keys are they changing..

After doing some reading, even after you use this tool, you still need to go into the time zone function which i can get to and alternate the zones for the new settings to take effect.

I find it ironic MS would lock down their network in such a way, to me setting the time in general and basic time zone should be enough. But requiiring DST info also to be a part of the LM logon is strange.

Thanks.. Jamie

There are applications that let you take snapshots of the Registry and compare them. I've used one of them before to see what another application's installer was doing. I *think* the one I used was regshot

but it might have been something else.

Matt Roberds

We live with difficult times.

After we're done fixing daylight savings time and removing the politics from the time zones, we still have the issue of leap seconds and the differences between UTC, GPS, and TAI times:

See a problem here?

When someone asks for the time, I sometimes reply with "Local, UTC, GPS, or TAI times"? just to see the confused look on their face. For those with a scientific clue, I add TDB (Barycentric Dynamical Time), TCB (Barycentric Coordinate Time), and TCG (Geocentric Coordinate Time). Once we've settled those differences, we'll need to deal with the erratic slowing of the earth's rotation which changes the length of the day. The War on Chronography never ends.

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I have a simpler way of dealing with it: I tend to operate completely independent of "The Clock" (much to the chagrin of those who try to interact with me -- thank heaven for the leeway email provides!). I consider it "a lucky guess" if I can get "within 2" of the current *date*!

(I once had an argument with someone regarding the current *year*! I mean, the only reminder most folks have in daily living wrt the year is writing it on checks, etc. If you don't *write* checks... )