very strange Microsoft Word bug

This has happened on four computers so far, including two of mine off-site. Win7Pro and Office2010.

In Word, a tooltip mouseover or a right-click times out in about a second. That makes it hard to do things.

I can fix it by doing the Word "repair" operation and rebooting. But it breaks again if I run a browser, either Firefox or Chrome.

Installing a new version of Office doesn't help.

I've googled (a lot) but found only a few complaints and no fixes.

Has anyone else seen this?

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No but this is the kind of thing you need Sysinternals procmon (process monitor) utility for.

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Tom Del Rosso

Which version of Word? I have 2003 and 2010. The 2003 versin works the best. is it a large Document? I always get Word hangs on large documents, just had oen today in 2010 on a 8mb doc file on the network.

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Martin Riddle

My old Word 2000 has no problems on Win7. ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

They're *ALL* bloody awful. Why are people still using this junk?

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Cursitor Doom

Because the boss pays me and gets to choose which tools I'm required to use?

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krw

I'd me suspicious that a keyboard/mouse capture malware is interfering with mouse presentation to the programme. Are other Office Apps like Excel affected or is it just confined to Word.

I have not seen anything like this on the same combo and I have little love for Word - it is an invention of the devil.

I'd suspect some addin on the browsers interfering with the mouse. Strongly advise a deep anti-malware scan with you AV and then another orthogonal tool that can co-exist like Malwarebytes or similar.

Nope. And I think I have seen most of the things that can go wrong with every version of Office since 97. Transition to 2007 was exceptionally painful. After that it has just been minor glitches for the most part.

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Martin Brown

Microsoft has steadily reduced large-document functionality in successive versions of Word. This became a problem at work with large files (200+ pages) with lots of internal cross-referencing links once I was forced to switch to Office 2013 - Acrobat could no longer convert the file to PDF, it churned for 8-10 minutes and aborted. That was an unsolvable problem, confirmed by our datasheet people, who are looking for a replacement solution for the corporate (Microsoft/Adobe) environment.

LO wasn't an alternative there because it didn't play well with the document template :(. But I'm very happy with it at home.

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Steve Goldstein

Just Word, and only after I run a browser.

It's OK if you use it like a text editor that can handle figures, and turn off most of the features. It gets evil when you pack it with tricks and macros and styles.

I've run Malwarebytes and the Microsoft MRT. The system is apparently clean. I loaded a virgin Chrome (my Firefox does have some add-ins) and running that breaks Word too.

My production managers' PC just started doing this too. He does very different stuff from the engineers. It can't be something nasty in our network, because my home and cabin PCs have done it too.

I hate computers.

Well, SED gets publically reposted, so maybe someone googling will see this.

If anybody has ideas, please email me!

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John Larkin

This is obviously the result of an intentional programming aspect by microsoft, to frustrate you and get you to use their browser to the exclusion of other browsers.

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Taxed and Spent

Good suggestion. And run it under Linux.

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+1

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Cursitor Doom

Ten years or so ago I switched my book MS from WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS to LaTeX. I tried converting it to Word, but Word crashed every time when repaginating. WordPerfect (circa 1990) did it flawlessly in 30 seconds or so on a Pentium Pro box.

I'd have stuck with WP except that the publisher would no longer accept it.

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Phil Hobbs

On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 4:02:14 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote: ...

I assume we're talking about macro-enabled templates here? Is there a convenient spot to place a "DoEvents" just before the ToolTip fires? My thinking is that something in the OS is causing the event to lose focus prematurely.

Consider this a wild-ass guess.

If that doesn't work, you can try: (as 32 bit) Declare Sub Sleep Lib "kernel32" (ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long) Sleep 1

In my experience, the bigger Word files become, the more likely they are to explode in unpredictable ways.

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mpm

Yes, I was tempted to reply to this thread that WP for DOS had no trouble with very large documents.

MS doesn't have bugs. They have bad designs.

WP could output plain text.

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Tom Del Rosso

It's even worse than that. They have bad policies around feature selection. They add features by jamming them in, without consideration for the additional cognitive load and complexity which reduces the effectiveness of all previous features. You end up with a way to do everything, but no way to do anything.

The only "strange" thing about a Microsoft bug is that anyone thinks it strange.

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Clifford Heath

Which is fine for novels. This book has hundreds of equations and hundreds of figures.

LaTeX is fine except that it's still a moving target.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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pcdhobbs

This reply has nothing to do with the original problem, but your post made me think about it.

Does everybody here know the trick about using "Insert" "Text Box" and then using THAT as the container for whatever: be it images, equations, objects, etc...?

Sure, the page itself can be the "container" but for whatever reason that seems to make later formating and pagination a real nightmare, and also seems to exacerbate the "big Word document explosion" issue.

Try it next time if you're not already aware of this little trick. You can also use cells in a table for the "container". (Anything but the page itself.)

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mpm

Try it next time if you're not already aware of this little trick. You can also use cells in a table for the "container". (Anything but the page itself.)

Thanks. I'm scrambling right now pulling together a .docx in LibreOffice, collaborating with folks using Office. The images aren't formatting very well, so I'll give that a try.

(Did I mention that GUI word processors are an invention of the devil?)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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pcdhobbs

GUI word processors are much better - iff you are more interested in pixel placement and colour than useful understandable content.

Me a grumpy old man? Shurely shome mishtake.

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Tom Gardner

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