I took my three daughters to the shooting range. I rented a 9mm Smith and Wesson and let each shoot 100 rounds at targets. All three absolutely loved it. I wanted them to shoot a real gun, not a .22.
Anyhow, I have been thinking of buying my own handgun and getting a Concealed carry permit. Mostly as an exercise of citizen rights. I am curious , if you feel compelled to answer, if you have a carry permit and any thoughts on the matter and what kind of handgun to buy.
Ask Clint Eastwood.... lol
If you want to pull and shoot, a Glock. IMO the safest is probably a Walther P99 You might also want to consider 10mm or possibly a .357 for extra hitting power.
OTOH, you could go for the insanity option - Desert Eagle
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The kick from a Dirty Harry gun would knock the kids over. I had a Ruger Police Special and if I fired 38 magnums I'd probably have trouble getting off a second shot when it mattered. 45's are worse.
John
A good point. I usually envision a fairly strong man shooting two handed. A weak person with a limp wrist will have the gun behind the back of their head after the first shot.
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Not really, if the OP can't even decide what gun to buy, he's obviously incapable of using/responsible enough to own. He'll probably ask on here if he can shoot the burglar that's just robbing his house. We don't have those problems in the UK.... And a .22 between the eyes is probably real enough.
Are you TTman because you carry TT pistol?
VLV
As the Oz-zies say, good on you, and good on them!
For some years I open-carried (in AZ) a .45 auto while riding my bike. Got me plenty of elbow room, never had to draw it.
Consider having to use that weapon; can you or your daughters kill a person to save their own or someone else's life? There is no other reason *to* carry.
Next time you go to the range visualize an armed street punk standing in front of the target. Smell him sweating, hear him breathing. Can you kill him?
If you are not absolutely positively CERTAIN you are able to kill, better to take Aikido lessons (less strenuous than Karate but very effective for defense).
You might consider a Taser instead of a gun; check local laws. The folks at the range will most likely be very helpful either telling you everything you want to know or knowing who you should ask.
Now that that's out of the way, I largely concur with Jim Yanik; a .
45 isn't for everybody. You probably want to go with the largest feasible slug (stopping power) in the smallest feasible gun (concealability). I don't know how strong your daughters are, but remember that most shootings are at pretty short range, and most shooters miss more than they hit, so magnums and such are rather silly for personal protection. Standard .38 or 9mm is fine. Plus the ammo is cheaper.Mark L. Fergerson
No home invasions in the UK? Must be nice.
Actually when what your shooting at can possibly shoot back you may find it inadequate. Contrary to TV and movies things dont drop dead instantly when shot.
Ask some grunts about how they like that pissant 9mm.
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. gBeing that you are from the UK, I would not expect you to "get it". Nobody in the UK is responsible or capable of using a gun in UK as I understand it. It is a right of being a citizen thing that I find partially appealing.
Remarkably rare here.
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"TTman" wrote in news:iGN_m.18696$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe23.ams:
Ah,that explains it,you're from the UK.
plonk.
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Hammy wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
actually,they have a much higher rate of AT-HOME burglaries. UK criminals have nothing to fear from residents. Heck,they even invaded their Queen's home. Beatle George Harrison was nearly stabbed to death by a burglar. He tried fighting him off with a lamp.... His wife also sustained injuries.
He's probably never owned a gun. Just some unknowledgeable troll.
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Absolutely. I prefer revolvers, simple, NEVER jam.
I doubt you would know that as a fact. I have no idea of the burglary rate per 100K of pop. in the USA. Or in the UK, for that matter, as it so rare as to not bother most 'ordinary' people. Most high profile burglaries ( G Harrison/Queen) are done by nutters. Like the guy that thought he could blow the Xmas day Delta Jet.
Unless they ( the resident) has a legal gun- 12 gauge twin barrel shotgun. No fear of missing with that. Yes, we ARE allowed to legally own /use/carry a shotgun. All other guns, NO.... I am against ( as are most of the UK) allowing gun carrying. I'll tell you why. I live in a town near to Aldershot, hampshire. This is the 'Home of the British Army'. We have thousands here.... Two days ago, a young woman took her 4 yr old daughter to see her estranged partner (male)... Whilst inside the house, the partner shot the daughter and then his partner( or the other way round) .He then shot himself dead. The woman died earlier today. Time will tell the full story and maybe some medical background to the male.
OK over to you guys in the USA.... Let's say this woman had a gun in her handbag..... and there was no history of violence from the partner. She walks into his house and he blows the kids head off. I gues she gets her weapon out and blows his head off.... I don't think so. She would be so traumatised she wouldn't even be able to think of anything other than the mess in front of her..... Leave your guns at home guys and leave the real shooting to soldiers who are properly trained.
rant over.
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Not true. Rifles from .22 auto to higher calibre single shot. That includes stuff like this:
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A .38 or 9mm is likely the best bet. The ammo is relatively cheap and anything bigger (.45 or .357) will likely be painful for them. It's unlikely they'll enjoy the experience.
I've had a carry permit for a little over a year. I got it when I moved to Alabama (didn't need one in VT). I've never carried a weapon concealed, though (or open, for that matter). I got the permit essentially for the same reason you cite above (because I can). I understand it'll get around any possible hassles between home and the range, too.
I really like my Beretta 92FS Inox. It's a full size 9mm with a stainless steel slide and upper hardware. I didn't like a lot of the others, particularly the Glok, because of their plastic frame. The Glocks didn't fit my hands, either. My suggestion is to go to a good gun store and feel them yourself. Some ranges allow you to rent weapons for a nominal fee (around here it's $5) so you can try it before buying. These stores are typically more expensive than buying in a sporting goods store box store, though.
I don't own a .45, but I've shot them. While a big bang, I find them a lot easier to control than my .357 Magnum (using .357 ammo). I rarely buy .357 ammo; too expensive and not all that fun.
As far as shooting fun goes, a .22 is a day's worth for under $20. When I go out (it's been a long while) I shoot a *lot* more .22 than anything else. I have two .22s, an automatic and a revolver, identical to my .357Mag.
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