The end is in sight

I've been in socialist countries.

They suck.

James Arthur

There must be great rejoicing in the Progressive Socialist Party (aka Democrats).

Only took them 100 days to destroy the USA as we know it :-(

...Jim Thompson

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Republicans and Democrats both have totally lost sight of their roots, not to mention any clue of what reality is. So it's no surprise that there should be some party switching going on.

They should merge into "The Party of Dippy Ineffective Extremists", and allow some room for folks who want to see the country governed based on some form of common sense, rather than knee-jerk litmus tests for adherence to foolish Utopian* ideals.

Joe the Plumber and George Cloony can co-chair the new party.

• OK, so "foolish Utopian" is redundant. But still...

Actually _less_ than an hour ago...

Fox played a recording of Pelosi saying that two weeks ago.

Sno-o-o-o-ort ;-)

...Jim Thompson

More like "The party of infinite government and negligible Liberty".

They're all traitors to the Constitiution, and belong at the end of a rope, twisting in the wind.

Thanks, Rich

Pelosi is no surprise, I was curious about Specter.

They both want to be reelected; they're doing what they need to do.

I agree with Specter that the Repubs have moved too far to the right. Unfortunately, as they've moved to the right, the Dems have moved to the left, and what's in between is now a vast and arid wasteland. It's also exactly where we need to be.

The Repubs want no taxes, huge military spending, chastity belts for all, and no government services to anyone who doesn't personally avow faith in Christ. The Dems want huge government, no military, contraceptives for all, and are probably willing to let you sacrifice virgins to the devil as long as you're current on your union dues.

I don't think either of those approaches are going to work.

I just want to be able to run my one-man shop without spending all my time filling out forms, be able to hire one employee without having to hire another one just to do the paperwork and compliance checking for the first, and know that at the end of the day the taxes that I pay go for things that are going to have a positive effect, and pay for everything without some fools borrowing tons of money and laying the debt on my (as yet unborn) grandchildren.

I don't think that either the Dems or the Repubs are delivering on that.

Welcome to the Future. In case you haven't noticed, the socialists have been taking over America for generations, and are following the example of the now-defunct Soviet Union right down the toilet.

Maybe they'll change the name of the USA to the USSS - Union of Soviet Socialist Stated.

Thanks, Rich

For sure.

I haven't had employees since ~1998. Wish I still had employees, so I could lay them all off ;-)

...Jim Thompson

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

I don't think the democrats are necessarily all that much more attractive than they've been in say, the past decade... it's more than the republicans have kinda imploded and Specter is running for cover.

Yep. But now that they have total power the Democrats are into rape and plunder.

...Jim Thompson

Tim Wescott wrote in news:HPmdnW99V49YqmrUnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@web-ster.com:

the Repubs have not moved to the right. If anything,they've moved left,as they went for the bailouts,and tend to compromise when the other side does not compromise.

No,they want fair taxes. As little of that "progressive" BS as possible,and not taxing a person's estate..that has already had taxes paid on it.

Far better than social spending that is only a waste. At least military spending creates good paying jobs,provides the US with a strong military,and gives us more options in dealing with other countries.

Pure nonsense.

IMO,anyone who wants contraceptives should be able to buy them,with their own money.Abortions,I favor MYOB,and a check box on tax returns like for donating to the Presidential Election Fund.Only those who want to help others would donate.

That last I ageee with. HOWEVER,I fear the DemocRATs/Leftists are destroying the Constitution and are out to destroy America as we know it.

=A0 =A0 ...Jim Thompson

Granting that most Americans can't tell the difference between socialism and communism, it might help if you identified which "socialist" country you had visited, and why you thought it sucked? Sweden is fairly socialist by American standards, and pretty much every socio-economic indicator shows it to be a better place to live than the USA.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

=A0 =A0 =A0 ...Jim Thompson

The improvements are noticeable, but I'm not surprised that Jim hasn't noticed them.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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Jim Yanik's political perspective is so far to the right that he can barely see the difference between Republicans and Democrats. In Europe, where the political spectrum is further to the left, we have a similar problem, but most of us can still see that the Republicans are perceptibly further to the right than the Democrats

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Spending as much on "defence" as all the next ten countries down the pecking order is usually considered a wasteful extravagance - historically, spending as much as your major rival plus what the third- placed country pays out has always been held to be adequate.

And social spending - at levels high enough to do the recipients some good - pays off in healthier and more educatable workers. It's been working in Europe for many years, even if Jim Yanik doesn't feel like believing it.

The option that Dubbya took was to spend hundreds of billions on overseas wars that don't seem to have done the US a scrap of good.

Of course Jim fears that. He wouldn't be a lunatic fringe-right winger if he didn't. America - as he and Jim Thompson know it - could do with a bit of selective destruction, also known as reform - and the antiquated U.S. constitution is overdue for revision.

Modifying the electoral system so that candidates couldn't buy votes by paying for 90-second television spots might be a good place to start.

-- Bill Sloman,

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Total power? The Democrats haven't even got a big enough majority to block a filibuster.

But Jim Thompson is always reliably out of touch with reality ...

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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If you troubled yourself to read the article, you'd find that with Specter flipping to Democrat, if Frankin wins then the Dems _will_ have the majority to block a filibuster.

Which is pretty scary, but I would guess that most red-state (and even some mixed-state) Democrats may not be thrilled about their election-year opponents shining a light on them for filibuster-breaking.

Tell her to use both hands.

Seriously, there isn't enough support (or willingness to incur the wrath of the voters) in the Democratic party to push it through.

than

Slowman must have that phrase permanently stored for repetitive use.

Sort of like Pelosi's use of "Bush's failed policies".

Both are signs of EXTREME ignorance.

Slowman, You still looking for work? I guess no one is hiring janitors, huh ?:-)

Slowman can't comprehend anything more complex than "Dick and Jane".

One can only hope.

I'm always pleased to note that I'm the highest standard for Slowman's disdain, but please don't feed the jerk. Let him die that most unpleasant of deaths... alone ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Yep, the end is in sight at least for old fools clinging to the CONservative past. We've had 30 years of deregulation and greed that has culminated in the collapse of the financial system. This is because unregulated, uncontrolled, do what you want, Laissez-Faire Capitalism is inherently unstable. It goes from boom to bust in chaotic cycles. For approximately 50 years since the depression it has been more or less controlled with a modicum of rules and regulation that kept it reasonably on track. Then along came Reagan and the Conservatives who over time took many of the regulations off under the idea that government is not the solution, government is the problem. The lessons of the great depression were unlearned! So back to wild swings of unstable capitalism we go. People want the rules put back in place. They want a more stable system and they want leaders that will work towards that end. Republicans offer NO solutions and are largely blamed for the deregulatory environment. So yes, the end is in sight or more properly a new beginning is in sight. It's not socialism nor communism but rather a form of capitalism we had from the 1930's to 1980. It worked well, created great wealth and allowed a large middle class to thrive. CONservatives seem to want a system that favors robber barons and the few over the many. They want to return to the 1880's. We aren't going there, sorry.