The Deplorables

Hmm It's turkey hunting season in my neck of the woods. I've always assumed that they eat 'em after shooting 'em.

George H.

I wouldn't know. Where I come from we only hunted deer, and squirrel. ...Jim Thompson

Yes, I'm aware of the division in philosophy that goes back to the Enlightenment, and I'm aware that you're on the wrong side of it.

It is you who disemble, as in pointoing out the origin of the divide while avoiding the fact that you're on the wrong side.

You'll be delighted to hear that Fox in the US and Sky in the UK have taken a Left turn and are no longer promoting common sense and sound reason. Murdoch is now on your side, Bill. He's done a deal with the Devil by the looks of things. I wonder what they could possibly have offered him? Eternal life in some form or another I would guess. Nothing else is going to have much appeal at his time of life.

Blacks couldn't possibly be any worse off with Trump than they would be with Hillary and hopefully they'll do considerably better.

A proven crooked, evil, demented warmonger.

Your awareness of a division in philosophy that goes back to the Enlightenm ent may be real, but since you don't specify precisely what division in phi losophy you are referring to it isn't any kind of useful statement.

Claiming that I'm on the wrong side of that division may be emotionally sat isfying, but since you haven't identified the division, it's just as useles s.

If you were somebody who knew the basics, you might be referring to the spl it between the Moderate Enlightenment and the Radical Enlightenment, but if you knew that much you'd be aware that the Radical Enlightenment turned ou t to be the useful side of the split and now forms our collective world vie w.

The divide between the proto-communists and the democratic socialists happe ned in 1870, long after the Enlightenment, and was all about the leading ro le of an enlightened elite trumping the preferences of the population as a whole.

I'm on the side of the "everybody gets to vote" crowd, and if you want to a rgue that that's the wrong side, you are lining up with any number of unple asant people, and unfortunate consequences.

You would appear to be an ignorant twit, and your claim that I'm "disemblin g" is total nonsense.

It may look that way to you. The Murdoch media in Australia still looks as right-wing as ever, but somebody as right wing as you may notice the editing of some of the more florid idiocies which you imagine to be common sense and sound reason.

Only if the Devil could buy advertising in his newspapers. Murdoch is interested in money, not abstract ideals like truth and accuracy.

Money.

All his kids seem to be running bits of his empire. He may be interested in keeping them wealthy. Parents are like that. Granting your personality, your own parents may have been less supportive.

Cursitor Doom gets it comprehensively wrong. Hillary Clinton has never been convicted of anything, so she's not a proven crook, and the US didn't decl are war on anybody when she was Secretary of State, so she's not a war-mong er.

There are tests for dementia, but nobody would bother administering any of them to Hillary Clinton - she's not remotely demented.

Evil is in the eye of the beholder, and since Cursitor Doom considers anybo dy to the left of Genghis Khan to be an evil-left-winger, he probably does think that she's evil. He's wrong - good and evil aren't useful concepts to use in discussing US politicians, where the "religious right" includes any number of extremely nasty pieces of work.

They are the liberals of the animal world.

The bitch is *very* well-connected. Bring back the Untouchables!

If you knew the basics you'd know I was not refering to a division _within_ the Enlightenment.

And I never thought you were ignorant. Just politically insane.

I do know the basics. What on earth you might be referring to isn't clear, and my opinion is that you haven't got a clue what you are talking about an d are just thrashing about to cover up the fact that you tried to get away with a spot of pretentious nonsense and got called on it.

Since you are both politically ignorant and inane, I couldn't care less abo ut your fatuous opinions. Julian Barnes may take them seriously, but he is spectacularly gullible.

The Untouchables were never as motivated as Ken Starr.

Meanwhile Donald Trump actually does seem to be crooked

I'm afraid that your enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton's imagined crimes has blinded you to Donald Trump's actually malfeasance.

You're the one who said if they aren't convicted they aren't guilty.

The Clintons were investigated by Ken Starr, and he couldn't find enough on them to charge them with anything, let alone convict them, so it's highly unlikely that they are guilty of anything.

Nobody much cared about Donald Trump until there was a real risk that he might be president, so he hadn't been looked at quite as closely.

He's being looked at now, and there do seem to be some skeletons in his closet. One may not call him a crook at the moment, but one can look forward to a few prosecutions, some of which may even succeed.

I just have a policy of not telling anyone what they don't want to know.

Among many other signs of political insanity, you claim the German constitution which allows for banning books is superior to ours. I could say that is a fatuous opinion but it would be an insult to fatuous opinions.

Democrats wouldn't, including their females.

Yes but they also benefitted from supporters who could vote, and in the south they were all Republicans. Not all white males needed to be shamed.

B. Clinton made a speech last week to a southern black audience claiming that Make America Great Again is code for resegregation. He said he "remembers the good old days and they weren't that good." If we were foolish enough to believe a word he says, we'd believe that he doesn't remember when he decided to give the Medal of Freedom to Senator Fullbright, the segregationist.

The Germans find it necessary to be able to ban Mein Kampf. In a ideal world they could rely on the common sense of their citizens, but that bit of history is a bit too close for comfort.