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You go right ahead, but we ain't taking no more shit.  

1. Women, White Men gave you your rights.

2. Blacks, White Men gave you your rights.

I, a White Man am willing to die for your rights right now.  

Who would do the same for me ?  

T^T

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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com says...
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A white man?



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On 9/17/2016 3:08 PM, M Philbrook wrote:
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Don't worry, he didn't mean you.


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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:17:43 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

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After thousands of years of taking them away.

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Ditto, mostly.


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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics  


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that was hardly limited to white or men

and why should what some people did to or had done  
to them before you were born have any relevance now?

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Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:

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Looking up my name I found that some of the Italian aristocracy would  
name their slaves "of the red" after the color of their coat of arms.  
(So I'm a desendant of slaves and Obama is not, unless his family was  
enslaved by Muslims.)  It doesn't matter to me.  In fact only 2  
generations ago it wouldn't have mattered; if my grandfather had been  
paid more it wouldn't make any difference to my bank account today.




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On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:15:41 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"

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I haven't quite figured out why it's always liberals that want to stir
up racial tensions.

Maybe it's because they've never actually lived in a mixed community
and have some twisted idea of what goes on there... or have no other
way to get votes ?>:-}

I've stated before, I grew up in a mixed community, post WWII VA
housing, 1/2 acre minimum lots, heritage immaterial, always assisting
the black family two houses up rounding up their turkeys if it rained
;-)

My current community is probably 35% Caucasian, 35% Hispanic, 30%
Black... no tensions... NO crime... everyone is armed... they wave
hello as you walk or drive by... always inquiring of our health,
particularly since the spate of ambulance visits ;-)
        
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson wrote:
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It just occurred to me that, since his father was a Muslim, it's more  
likely that his ancestors were slave owners.



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Some have lived there and some never would.  They arrive at their POV  
different ways.

They've certainly used immigration as a way to import votes.  Since  
Andrew Jackson murdered Indians and gave their land to voters, they've  
always bought votes with other people's property, but in 1965 they  
realized they couldn't buy enough domestically.


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I grew up in a NYC area that was half Latin (post Immigration Act) but  
still with a lot of Irish.  The Irish were usually the bullies and  
criminals.  The only race we didn't have was black.  They lived on the  
other side of a boulevard.  In NYC they were never forceably segregated,  
but the government sure made them feel agrieved.  If we strayed over  
there we were in real danger.  When I, in an act of anti-bigotry at age  
13, rode my bike over there to see how wrong the warnings were, I was  
chased out by a swarm of 7-year-olds one of whom started it by yelling,  
"Hey get that white kid."  I would have been dead meat if they were  
older.  But even then I knew they weren't that bad a generation earlier  
before the Great Society.

It was not symmetrical.  When they came into our neighborhood we were  
the ones who had to fear.  But that's the effect of a government telling  
them they should have a grudge.  We see it now in the Obama  
administration's influence in Fergusson and elsewhere.


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Jim Thompson wrote:
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They believe that history is a class struggle.  They see everything as  
haves and have-nots.  I've said before that this explains a lot of their  
behavior.

Some of them won't admit they believe in the basic tenets of Communism,  
but most of them don't know where their philosophy comes from.




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On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 11:49:25 AM UTC-5, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
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Zactly. And who has thee inferior education and skills ? But they wat to give our money away. How about they give their own money away.

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In fact it is a misleading formulation. Tom del Rosso doesn't seem to know  
that the Communists got that philosophical element from broader socialist t
hought.

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Tom del Rosso, obviously, but you didn't know enough to notice his error ei
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away.

They do. It's part of the same package. You raise more taxes from everybody
 to spend on making the poor a healthier, better educated and more producti
ve work force, which eventually pays off for everybody. More of the extra t
axes come from the well-off, because they've got more money - the poor don'
t have enough to cover the cost of collection - but most of the long term b
enefit ends up in the pockets of the well off because they get to hire more
 productive workers, and make money out of the extra production.

--  
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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Yes, I'm aware of the division in philosophy that goes back to the  
Enlightenment, and I'm aware that you're on the wrong side of it.

It is you who disemble, as in pointoing out the origin of the divide  
while avoiding the fact that you're on the wrong side.




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On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 2:52:19 AM UTC+10, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
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Your awareness of a division in philosophy that goes back to the Enlightenm
ent may be real, but since you don't specify precisely what division in phi
losophy you are referring to it isn't any kind of useful statement.

Claiming that I'm on the wrong side of that division may be emotionally sat
isfying, but since you haven't identified the division, it's just as useles
s.

If you were somebody who knew the basics, you might be referring to the spl
it between the Moderate Enlightenment and the Radical Enlightenment, but if
 you knew that much you'd be aware that the Radical Enlightenment turned ou
t to be the useful side of the split and now forms our collective world vie
w.
  
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The divide between the proto-communists and the democratic socialists happe
ned in 1870, long after the Enlightenment, and was all about the leading ro
le of an enlightened elite trumping the preferences of the population as a  
whole.

I'm on the side of the "everybody gets to vote" crowd, and if you want to a
rgue that that's the wrong side, you are lining up with any number of unple
asant people, and unfortunate consequences.

You would appear to be an ignorant twit, and your claim that I'm "disemblin
g" is total nonsense.

--  
Bill Sloman, Sydney


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If you knew the basics you'd know I was not refering to a division  
_within_ the Enlightenment.

And I never thought you were ignorant.  Just politically insane.




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On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 11:58:03 AM UTC+10, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
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I do know the basics. What on earth you might be referring to isn't clear,  
and my opinion is that you haven't got a clue what you are talking about an
d are just thrashing about to cover up the fact that you tried to get away  
with a spot of pretentious nonsense and got called on it.
  
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Since you are both politically ignorant and inane, I couldn't care less abo
ut your fatuous opinions. Julian Barnes may take them seriously, but he is  
spectacularly gullible.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

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I just have a policy of not telling anyone what they don't want to know.


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Among many other signs of political insanity, you claim the German  
constitution which allows for banning books is superior to ours.  I  
could say that is a fatuous opinion but it would be an insult to fatuous  
opinions.




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On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 12:55:23 AM UTC+10, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
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The Germans find it necessary to be able to ban Mein Kampf. In a ideal world they could rely on the common sense of their citizens, but that bit of history is a bit too close for comfort.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney


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The American constitution appears to allow banning books e.g.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test




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John Devereux

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On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 18:46:03 +0100, John Devereux wrote:

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Thank god their book-banning antics have become totally ineffective in  
the internet age.

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Sure, I was just responding to the post (that you snipped) about the US
constitution being superior to the German one just because Germany
allows book banning.

I am sure Mein Kampff and holocaust denial books are just a file sharing
site away in Germany, too...


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John Devereux

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