Tax Refunds are less this year, must be Trumps fault

Hopefully Hitlary. If the Clintons were subjected to the same degree of scrutiny, they'd both end up in jail for the rest of their shitty lives.

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Even if true, which given your record isn't likely, it's irrelevant. Just because someone happens to have an X-Ray from 50 years ago doesn't mean that everyone does or that it's typical.

More wild speculation. The libs were sure there was collusion with Russia too.

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trader4

I was saying that you can't prove a crime, that it was 50 years ago, the voters knew about it, they made their decision, they elected Trump. And if you keep this up, it just makes it more likely they will elect him again.

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trader4

Sure, but that's before it's a LAWSUIT. It goes to court because there is disagreement that can't be resolved. And that's what happened with the casinos.

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trader4

Wrong again, always wrong. The company that was the subject of the federal discrimination action was the Trump family business that his father created and it been around for decades, with the family already very wealthy. They owned 40,000 apartments at the time.

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trader4

You know this - how ?

How ? How ? How ?

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jurb6006

snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news:475e2d97-e129-4fec-8bb0-bb890c5d2610 @googlegroups.com:

Damn dude. Sorry punk, but you could not dance if you tried and this prancing around gets you nowhere.

It was a crime, period. Benefit or not. It was not a civil case, idiot.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

X-rays from 50 years ago don't have any metadata that could verify they belong to a specific individual anyway. A draft dodger could have bought them, or bought contacts of originals, so their evidential value - if any

- is very low indeed. Possibly scores of draft-dodgers could have availed themselves from just one original plate.

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Bones aren't identical from one individual to another, and there are lot of bones in the foot

They constitute their own metadata, and trying to pass off an X-ray of somebody else's foot as your own wouldn't be wise.

Nobody is ever going to accuse Cursitor Doom of wisdom, but even for him this a pretty dumb conceit.

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snipped-for-privacy@optonline.net wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

You are a goddamned idiot. BTW, moniker jaw boy... I am a Republican. Ooops! Looks like you are still batting 1000 on the can't get shit right hayride.

And you said that stupid shit the other day too. Nothing *I* do is going to give the retarded sub-human Doanld J. Trump a second term. And yes, dipshit, a person claiming to get a deferment from a draft would very likely keep the evidence that proves he was disabled at the time. It is absolutely ludicrous for you or anyone else to think it was discarded. The fact is it does not exist, because it never existed. Grow the f*ck up, putz.

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Wrong again, always wrong. I never said you were a Republican. In fact, the other day I told your butt buddy Bill that IDK where you are on the political spectrum. You just have a reading comprehension problem, in addition to many other obvious problems.

That's another lie. Wrong, always wrong. Here's a challenge for you. It was just the other day, so provide us a link to the post where you say that I said you were a Republican. Do it for us, big man. Are you as sure of that as you are about Trump's X-rays and everything else, like clocks?

You are so profoundly stupid that you don't even realize that the above is self-contradictory. If something is "very likely" true, then there is also still a reasonable chance that it's not and hence it;s not ludicrous at all to think it was discarded.

Wrong, always wrong.

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trader4

snipped-for-privacy@optonline.net wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

You also cannot read. I never said that you said I was anything you dumbfuck! *I* said that *I* am a republican, you goddamned retarded piece of shit! Learn to read, dumbfuck.

*I* answered that post too. So you cannot even keep short term memory worth a shit either!

You are an idiot. A fat 350+ pound dipshit.

Learn to read, dumbfuck. I never said that you said anything. Goddamn boy grow the f*ck up.

Does writing stupid shit like this get you off or something, child? It really is about as immature as it gets.

Nice try, pissy little bitch.

You could not handle the clock argument so stamped off and left it as comments made during other arguments where you claim you were right. How special. You really are an immature little bitch, and I do not need any calculus for that, despite knowing it, whereas you state stupid shit like 'only libs use calculus'. You have pretty much dug your own grave, child.

Wow... your eleven year old pissy bitch mentality is really showing through. Bwuahahahahaha!

It is unreasonable to think a medical record was discarded. You dig, boy?

You have really chosen a good sig there, child. Funny how you are the only one spouting it, and you are the one it fits.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

ROTFL!! Typical Sloman! :-D I don't believe he's ever read a serious book in his entire life.

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Get back where you belong, Bill. You're not due for early release for a long time yet.

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Typical Cursitor Doom. I do post links to serious books here from time to time (and I have read them) but Cursitor Doom has me kill-filed so he doesn't notice.

The blinkered idiot then thinks that absence of any evidence that he has processed is positive evidence about my behavior.

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That's a relief. His idiocies may abate.

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After reading a good piece of the wasteland his thread has become, I wonder if you all argue like this about whether to use a 2N2222 or 3904.

A tax refund is somewhat proportional to the total tax bill, and even thoug h that should be common knowledge there are people so stupid they think it means higher taxes.

If taxes went down but someone wants to use the IRS as a bank account like a "Christmas club" then they can take zero deductions and instead of their take home pay going up, They get it in a lump sum next year.

The IRS does however have rules on just how much you can do this. I don't k now exactly what the limit is but if your refund is more than so many perce nt of your tax there is a penalty. If you know what you're dong you might g et he penalty waved, either by an agent or the court. Try to avoid their co urt though... Take my word for it.

Another rule for dealing with the IRS is always mail. Not email, not teleph one, regular post office snail mail. There are several advantages to this a nd really they don't need to be enumerated here.

Some people do use it as a bank account though. They will borrow a bunch of money, say they don't have good credit and they borrow from friends and fa mily for Christmas. Then pay them all back when they get their check.

People are also stupid in another thing. First of all 4/11 means nothing un less you owe them. you can file ten years later if you want, but why let th em use your money ? Actually the interest they pay is not the worst these d ays. If they hold on to the money for more than a year and then you file th ey will pay interest ion it and that could be the reason why there is a reg ulation about padding your deduction to get a use check.

But there is another thing. If you are a taxpayer working at least somewhat regularly for a company that is going to get a W-4 and give you a W-2, the W-2 is due by 2/1. If you file right away you get your check quick and I m ean I got them in like four weeks. They don't pay any interest unless it is over a year so you got nothing to gain letting them use your money.

So people are stupid and lazy and wait and wait to file and then when their checks start coming in September they started getting those loans. They ar e popular enough to advertise on TV.

Income tax refund mater more on the filer than the tax rate.

Damn.

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jurb6006

er if you all argue like this about whether to use a 2N2222 or 3904.

ugh that should be common knowledge there are people so stupid they think i t means higher taxes.

In many cases, that's not true. Someone could have a tax liability of $50K and owe money, while someone with a tax liability of $5K could get a substantial refund. And the problem currently is the tax laws changed and unless you went through the procedure to figure out how it affects you, you could wind up way off with withholding.

e a "Christmas club" then they can take zero deductions and instead of thei r take home pay going up, They get it in a lump sum next year.

That works unless you have additional material income, eg capital gains from stock.

know exactly what the limit is but if your refund is more than so many per cent of your tax there is a penalty.

I never heard any such thing and it's totally illogical. I think you have this confused with the penalty if you UNDERPAY estimated taxes. Why would the IRS have a penalty for overpaying?

If you know what you're dong you might get he penalty waved, either by an a gent or the court. Try to avoid their court though... Take my word for it.

phone, regular post office snail mail. There are several advantages to this and really they don't need to be enumerated here.

of money, say they don't have good credit and they borrow from friends and family for Christmas. Then pay them all back when they get their check.

unless you owe them. you can file ten years later if you want, but why let them use your money ?

That's wrong too. If you are required to file a tax return, then it's due on 4/15, not 4/11 and you must file one. You can get an automatic 6 month extension. But if you fail to file, there is a penalty, regardless if you've paid enough to cover the tax or not. The IRS isn't about to let people go without documenting it, reconciling it, putting it on record as to what your taxes were and try to figure it out 10 years later. Also, the IRS has it's secret formula that they use to decide who to select for audit. I would suspect that failing to file returns would be part of that criteria.

n to the money for more than a year and then you file they will pay interes t ion it and that could be the reason why there is a regulation about paddi ng your deduction to get a use check.

That's baloney too. The only time I'm aware that the IRS pays interest is if you file on time, are due a refund, and the IRS doesn't send it to you within 45 days of when you file. If you file late, the 45 days start from when you file.

at regularly for a company that is going to get a W-4 and give you a W-2, t he W-2 is due by 2/1. If you file right away you get your check quick and I mean I got them in like four weeks. They don't pay any interest unless it is over a year so you got nothing to gain letting them use your money.

ir checks start coming in September

To get a check in Sept, you'd have to file for an extension and file your taxes in August or similar. If ypu file on the 4/15 deadline you should have it by the end of May.

they started getting those loans. They are popular enough to advertise on T V.

Those are payday type loans, at a high interest rate and they have been around a long time.

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trader4

Whoever told you that is full of shit even if he is the owner of the IRS. It is simply not true.

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jurb6006

It is the IRS:

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If your return was over 60 days late, the minimum failure-to-file penalty is the smaller of $210 (for tax returns required to be filed in 2019) or 100% of the tax required to be shown on the return."

So even if you've paid enough in withholding and/or estimated tax payments, if you fail to file, it's a $210 penalty. I'm surprised it's that low.

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