SURPRISE, Lois Lerner's Emails lost

This is a total surprise! :-0

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"Washington, DC ? Today, Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R-MI) issued the following statement regarding the Internal Revenue Service informing the Committee that they have lost Lois Lerner emails from a period of January 2009 ? April 2011. Due to a supposed computer crash, the agency only has Lerner emails to and from other IRS employees during this time frame. The IRS claims it cannot produce emails written only to or from Lerner and outside agencies or groups, such as the White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or Democrat offices."

?The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS?s response to Congressional inquiries. There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice as well as the Inspector General.

?Just a short time ago, Commissioner Koskinen promised to produce all Lerner documents. It appears now that was an empty promise. Frankly, these are the critical years of the targeting of conservative groups that could explain who knew what when, and what, if any, coordination there was between agencies. Instead, because of this loss of documents, we are conveniently left to believe that Lois Lerner acted alone. This failure of the IRS requires the White House, which promised to get to the bottom of this, to do an Administration-wide search and production of any emails to or from Lois Lerner. The Administration has repeatedly referred us back to the IRS for production of materials. It is clear that is wholly insufficient when it comes to determining the full scope of the violation of taxpayer rights.?

Oversight Subcommittee Chairman Charles Boustany Jr., M.D. (R-LA) added, "In the course of the Committee's investigation, the Administration repeatedly claimed we were getting access to all relevant IRS documents. Only now - thirteen months into the investigation - the IRS reveals that key emails from the time of the targeting have been lost. And they bury that fact deep in an unrelated letter on a Friday afternoon. In that same letter, they urge Congress to end the investigations into IRS wrongdoing. This is not the transparency promised to the American people. If there is no smidgeon of corruption what is the Administration hiding?"

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Den fredag den 13. juni 2014 22.44.18 UTC+2 skrev amdx:

they just do what others did before them...

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-Lasse

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Lasse Langwadt Christensen

It's not the same in several important ways.

First, the President has absolute ability to dismiss staff--there was no possibility of wrong-doing. Squeal as the Democrats did, Bush had every right to dismiss the people he dismissed. (Clinton did the same, IIRC).

According to your link, the R's lost e-mails that were going through a private RNC e-mail server. Technically, are we supposed to believe the IRS--an ENORMOUS government agency--is using a private e-mail server?

That's a lie.

Are we also supposed to believe the IRS' servers aren't mirrored, aren't backed up, and there are no weekly off-site backups? If that's true, why isn't the IRS having massive problems carrying on all the rest of their business, with all those records missing? Why has it taken over a year for them to report or notice this colossal loss/failure?

What happened is this--recent Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests for IRS e-mails by private parties got e-mails showing IRS staff in Cincinnati was actively colluding with U.S. Senators, the FBI, and President Obama's IRS legal appointee in Washington to target political opponents. Some e-mails were probably released accidentally, and were very damaging.

The known e-mails reveal criminal activity, they implicate various parties engaged in a criminal conspiracy, and they put the lie to the White House talking points about the scandal being confined to the Cincinnati office.

Now the IRS has just lied about losing the e-mails, with the flimsiest of excuses--that's prima facie evidence of a criminal conspiracy. Releasing the info late on a Friday when the President's out of town is standard cover-up procedure, evidence of coordination.

There's only one plausible reason--the IRS' political targeting originated in the White House, and the e-mails show it, just like all the evidence thus far suggests.

The IRS was used to target and neutralize--even criminally prosecute-- citizens opposing Obama, to win an election.

The IRS malefactors should be prosecuted, the evidence recovered, and if it leads to the President, the President must be impeached.

James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

Why don't they just get copies of the emails from the NSA?

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krw

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like when Bush's staff outed a CIA agent to get back at her husband?

-Lasse

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Lasse Langwadt Christensen

the NSA idea was suggested by a congressman.

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haiticare2011

Yes, and many of the advisers to Obama are the same guys as Bush used. Larry Summers advised Bush on Iraq and also is a major Obama adviser. Summers I understand advised Russia after the breakdown to rebuild their economy, and we know how that worked out.

But the lawlessness now is much more extreme. We almost had WW3 recently in Syria. A world takeover depends on getting the US out of the way, and so far it's working...That may sound good for some, but wait until you see the new world order.

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haiticare2011

Is that your way of justifying illegal behavior? Mikek

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amdx

Probably her dog ate all the paper copies, too >:-} ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

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nope, but if one set of crocks got aways with it why should the next set think it isn's isn't ok

-Lasse

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Lasse Langwadt Christensen

Oh, ye, of little information content... otherwise known as a dummy

...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

Is that the same as Louis Lane playing hanky-panky with Superman?

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Robert Baer

Never happen.

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Robert Baer

Yes, I agree with your estimate in general, BUT, Cantor got booted out of Congress on his ass - a real drop-kick- and that wasn't supposed to happen either. Brat spent 130k and good-boy Cantor spent 5 million.

I wonder what Cantor will do now. I've got a septic tank that needs scrubbing if he needs some work - He will get covered in "honey water" - but honest for a change.

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haiticare2011

How many septic tanks are there on K Street?

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krw

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Oh, well, that's different. If Bush people used an external server, then it's perfectly fine for Obama, the IRS, and the Department of Justice to persecute political opponents.

Thanks for explaining that.

Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

Agreed. But it's what's supposed to happen, when the government's working. This goes to the core of a free society, free speech, and free elections--a thousand times more serious than Watergate ever was.

Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

On Friday, June 13, 2014 11:39:37 PM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrot e:

After two years' witch-hunt, the Special Prosecutor found that was accidental. No one was charged or indicted for outing Valerie.

If that was a big deal, you'll be glowing with pride over Obama's crew outing the CIA *chief* in Afghanistan:

Top CIA officer in Afghanistan mistakenly named by White House

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Impeachment is a political punishment. Not just for crimes, it's also how you fire officials for incompetence, dereliction, etc.

Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

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