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May I ask all you gurus on yjis newsgroup. What do think about the following:

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Not sure if it is that easy -- so I ask. Thanks in advance.

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dakupoto
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It is that easy. I'm told it's also easy for the crt to go bang due to the electron stream overheating the glass at the neck.

NT

Reply to
tabbypurr

yeah, it's about that easy. but one of those $25 pocket digital osciloscope kits might be more useful, a TV oscilloscope can barely handle audio frequency signals.

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Jasen Betts

dakupoto:

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You don't end up with a scope but a fairly useless curiosity which you may or may not find amusing to play with. The only way to turn a CRT into a proper scope is to use it as the display for a conventional digital scope - this probably isn't worth the effort any more. Every now and again I see huge CRTs being dumped at the local tip and I have urges to rescue them and put them to work but I'm getting over it :-)

MK

Reply to
Michael Kellett

the timebase is 15kHz, and the video bandwidth 6MHz.

NT

Reply to
tabbypurr

On 14 Oct 2015 09:50:15 GMT, Jasen Betts Gave us:

It would be like first year electronics experimentation regimen.

Not unlike building a crystal radio tuner by today's standards.

Better off buying a USB scope and using your PC display to examine the probings.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

And in oscilloscope mode, you need the vertical deflection to respond at the video rate, not just the intensity.

Magnetic deflection produces much better focused spots than electrostatic, but is much much slower. The reason for the badness of electrostatic focusing is actually pretty interesting: because the field obeys Laplace's equation, it cannot have a maximum value except at the boundary. Thus you can't make negative lenses, which means you can't correct aberrations.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Reply to
Phil Hobbs

That was one of the first projects I tried as a teenager. As you suggest it was severely limited in bandwidth. Looking back, it might have been a lot better with compensation for the coil inductances. I guess a current driver with as high an available voltage as feasible. Or just pre-emphasize the signal I suppose.

Then I got an actual scope and the first thing was to make it show a TV picture :)

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John Devereux

Oscilloscope/

Oscilloscope/

You can use them as finals in audio amplifiers, apparently. I haven't done this, but I'm assuming that you get both sound and light from the effort.

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Tim Wescott

You can run it both ways, depending on the bandwidth needed. You can also use an envelope detector to go even higher in frequency - at least for some apps.

Can concentric rings with opposite polarity not achieve that?

NT

Reply to
tabbypurr

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Not sure if it is that easy -- so I ask.

Nope. The potential always achieves its extreme values on the surface, so there's no way to have a maximum in the middle, which is what you need for a negative lens.

In optics optics, you can compensate for field curvature by keeping the Petzval sum small--see

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, but this doesn't work in electron optics, because you can't make the equivalent of negative lenses. It's the classical problem of electron optics.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Dr Philip C D Hobbs 
Principal Consultant 
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC 
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 

160 North State Road #203 
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hobbs at electrooptical dot net 
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Reply to
Phil Hobbs

What happens if we make the electrode a spot right in the middle, where the beam would hit it, then deflect the beam away with a magnet just before it does hit it? I can see this not working :)

NT

Reply to
tabbypurr

That is total bullshit, and i am being polite.

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Robert Baer

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