seek EIA-909 spec and references

That depends on your agreement with the client. Some have in the contract that they want everything that they specifically paid for. Some actually mean it.

Yup.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

I do not need to have the exact copy. All I need to read is the contents and what I can use as references to my documentation. Can you please tell me which library may have this in San Francisco Bay area? I have checked and found none so far. Thank you very much.

Hello Andraw,

These standards are mostly under strong copyright protection and must be purchased. Unfortunately they can be quite expensive. I had to shell out more than $200 for my set of the IEC-601.

However, you may be able to obtain a copy for a while through your library. It is unlikely that they have it unless it is a huge university library but they may be able to request one.

Regards, Joerg

You do charge it to the client, you understand; you _don't_ part with it at the end of the job -- look at how many books/journals/ specs you used for the job without charging the client a penny.

Hi Nicholas,

No, I don't do that. If I have to buy it just for that one consulting assignment I'd tell the client that they will be billed for it. But then it's their copy after I am done. Stuff like IEC is my daily bread so that is just part of my overhead of doing business. IOW, I buy it and it stays here. In your contracts you could try to include a 'standards maintenance surcharge' like my CPA bills a 'computer surcharge'. But I guess in our market that won't fly.

Regards, Joerg

Hi Andrew,

Since I live near Sacramento I am not so familiar with S.F. but my first trip would probably be to Stanford. You need to have the exact title, year and ISBN number which you should be able to obtain from EIA. Then they can look it up on their network to see whether they can order it from another library. Universities can usually get their hands on almost anything that was ever published.

Regards, Joerg

Joerg, I have been to Stanford engineering library. However, to check out reference material (not on shelf), I need Stanford student card which I do not have.

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Thanks Joerg. None of any Silicon Valley & SF public libraries has any EIA spec.

My University alumni card allows me access to university and corporate libraries. Could that work for you?

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

Hi Andrew,

Yes, you'd need that. Do they let you have it for reading inside the library? That, plus a thermos of coffee should do in your case. Another option is to try the local public library. In our community we pay taxes for that so membership is free. If they don't have a certain publication they can also get it for you. I believe even if it had to come from a university system.

Regards, Joerg

Which library? Can I check if they have EIA specs? Thanks so much.

EIA

Get a real librarian to search. They can find just about anything.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

Check to see if they've renumbered the standard in the ANSI catalog.

You should be able to search for keyword at the EIA/TIA site or the ANSI site.

There's also the company that's the sole? distributor, Global Engineering Documents(?).

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