Russian Woman Behind MH-17 Shootdown

That would explain a lot.

I had a c- The Buk missile itself does not have a sophisticated on-board IFF (identify friend and foe) system. It's apparently only a "friend" detector. If your plane has a transponder which is transmitting the correct (military) signal, the Buk considers you a friend. If not, you're an enemy as far as it is concerned.

- The Buk depends on ground-based radar systems for initial target identification.

- When fully deployed, Buk batteries are often supported by fairly sophisticated ground-based radar networks.

- The Buk launcher vehicle is capable of operating independently, separate from any additional network of radar systems. The vehicle's own launch radar system is *not* sophisticated... he said "you see a trace on the screen and that's it."

- The military transport planes that the Ukranian military has been flying in the area have an operational ceiling of around 25k feet. Commercial planes such as the MH-17 flight fly somewhat higher (33k is common). The Buk has an even higher ceiling than this (I think he said around 40k at best).

All of this seems consistent with what is suggested by some of the reports of phone calls between the pro-Russian insurgents (call them what you wish) right around the time of the plane crash. They said at first that they'd shot down a military plane, then realized it was a civilian flight.

They may very well have believed they were launching a Buk at a military flight... they had shot down a couple of others with some sort of SAM in previous days. If their Buk launcher was deployed autonomously (and not being actively supported by a Russian ground-launch network) then the launcher's simple radar wouldn't have made it apparent that the flight was civilian (except possibly for an indication of altitude, which a poorly trained operator might have missed). The missile itself apparently isn't capable of distinguishing an "enemy" plane from an "uninvolved civilian" plane.

Boom.

It uses something called the Parol recognition system. This is a militarily encoded frequency hopping scheme, the codes for which are changed hourly. It's not an IFF, it's the electronic version of a sentry password system. T he BUK system is not a target discrimination system, it is part of a dumb b attery of launchers that are ordered to shoot everything down that comes wi thin a designated sector, unless it gets past Parol.

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So they say.

Actually it's quite sophisticated as TAR, target acquisition radar, and tar get illuminator all wrapped in one. And it plays all kinds of games to prot ect itself against anti-radiation homing missiles.

It was totally inappropriate to use this radar in an area where civilian ai rcraft could come withing its engagement sector. It has no target identific ation capability whatsoever. The very design philosophy of this system is t o shoot first and ask questions later.

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19 Jul 2014 12:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Newsgroups: us.politics Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 12:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=91.39.68.104; posting-account=CxZZbgoAAAAzaoej7CN80h-pwAZ78vb0 NNTP-Posting-Host: 91.39.68.104 User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: MH17 was deflected from planned flight route !!! From: snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com Injection-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:30:33 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: news.datemas.de us.politics:29222 As commonly available flight radar data show, the civil airplane put down allegedly by Eastern Ukrainian rebels was deflected from its original flight path! All other machines took far more Southern routes. Also, the plane was accompanied by Ukrainian war planes and had to lower its height. The Ukrainian government still gave no answer why the plane was apparently ordered to take this unusual and (for the rebels) possibly suspicious route. Source (in German):

More conspiracy theory brewing for the mental midgets, so why are we not surprised you jump right on it.

As usual it all boils down to money. Ukraine wants to collect overflight fees and the airlines want to save a dime.

The cowardly Russian vermin have already been caught on video skulking back to Russia with their decrepit BUKs.

Check any Emirates aircraft. The Emirates logo and "Emirates" is painted in bright colors on the belly surface, visible ONLY from below. Have seen it at Hong Kong.

Doesn't matter. Painted logos are invisible to radar.

Joe Gwinn