Running 120V Motor with 240V?

Hi,

I've got a blower with a motor rated for 120V, and I was wondering if it was possible to run it with 240V somehow.

I was thinking maybe phase control or something, but to be honest, I'm not really as familiar with power electronics as I'd like.

Thoughts?

Thanks

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Mio
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use a stepdown transformer

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ZACK.

If you're using power electronics, then by the time it gets to the motor it's 120V, and the onus is on the electronics to make it fly and not fry.

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Tim Wescott

How big is it? Split phase? Offshore-made autotransformers are reasonably priced up to 500W or more (>1/2 HP), but they're heavy. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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Spehro Pefhany

Check the manufacturer's specs. Some motors have provisions for connection as either 120V or 240V. Sometimes you will see a wiring diagram on the inside of the motor junction box cover plate. You might get lucky! Jon

Reply to
jd_lark

Thanks for the suggestions.

I'd rather not use a step-down transformer if I could avoid it (They're a little big, and I'm not sure I have the room).

It's a PSC motor.

Thanks

Reply to
Mio

It does not support rewiring as 240.

Do I have any options other than a transformer?

Thanks

Reply to
Mio

It does not support rewiring as 240.

Do I have any options other than a transformer?

Thanks

You might get away with a series capacitor, but guard against LC series resonance at or near the supply frequency.

Chris

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christofire

"Mio" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... On May 14, 12:05 pm, jd snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:

It does not support rewiring as 240.

Do I have any options other than a transformer?

Thanks

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If you want to be creative, you could make a PWM motor controller, but instead of rectifying the mains voltage and recreating a sine wave, you can drive the bridge with the sine wave input and use diodes to steer the voltage appropriately. Then you can use a simple 50% PWM to get 120 VAC from 240 VAC.

I did something like this with LTspice. The ASCII file shows generic switches that need to be replaced with a bidirectional switches, which could be two MOSFETs or IGBTs in series. The same effect can be done in a bridge circuit. If the load is inductive, as a motor, it is necessary to provide a conduction path during the OFF times, and the snubber reduces inductive voltage spikes during transition. The RC network across the load shows the average waveform that effectively would be seen by the motor.

Paul

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Reply to
Paul E. Schoen

A simple phase control that employs a triac will work just fine.

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Jamie

Not safe.

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JosephKK

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