Does anyone have any links to sites where people are making their own microphones of decent quality?
I'm not going to do it -- just entertain myself on a Saturday. I'm fascinated by the capacitive microphone that uses a 100V (or whatever) bias plus an itty bitty tube as a preamp.
-- www.wescottdesign.com
not capacitive but:
** Never heard of Google ?
** It's not a viable idea in terms of cost - cos you can buy them new so cheaply now.
Mic, PSU, XLR cable, accessories and carry case for US$188.
.... Phil
Search for a "condenser microphone".
Made in Santa Cruz CA:
Do-it-thyself: Plenty to choose from.
Have fun...
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Why not use the capacitance variation to modulate an RF oscillator frequency? The s/n would be outrageous.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics
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150 Felker St #D
Sennheiser MKH and probably others work like that
Broadcast quality? Like BBC newsreaders use? What type of mic out of the many variants available gives the best fidelity in this kind of application where voice reproduction quality is key?
They have a fixed frequency oscillator and the mic capacitance variation detunes the FM demodulator, which achieves essentially the same effect.
The fixed frequency come from a crystal oscillator (for low FM noise).
I found this out when I reverse engineered a Sennheiser MKH 816T microphone back in the '80s. Someone had asked me to fix it, but it turned out that that it wasn't broken at all; they were just using the wrong sort of phantom supply. (I ended up building a crude phantom supply out of a 7812 regulator and a 1:1 audio transformer. It worked adequately well.)
Regards, Allan
** Why so ?
The dynamic range of dynamic mic is about 135dB.
The dynamic range of a good, DC biased condenser mic is even better.
Condenser mics using FM were tried, but soon abandoned for a variation using AM instead - cos the latter were much quieter.
Even so, DC biased types dominate the market by a huge factor.
Sometimes the simplest idea is the best.
.... Phil
That standard has dropped quite a lot in recent years... microphone quality is comprimised by visual appearance.
This is most noticable when the commonly used revers microphone breaks down and the audio technician quickly hands a classic microphone to be used instead. The difference in audio quality is really staggering.
No idea what you mean by "revers" and "classic" microphones.
Outrageous good, or outrageous bad? I was thinking of doing that, actually.
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Good, I think.
I think that, for good s/n, a little diaphragm motion should steer a lot of power. So a chunky RF oscillator might do that.
I guess any good microphone will ultimately be limited by vibration and Brownian motion. I think a bigger diaphragm is better as regards Brownian noise. Maybe a ribbon mic with capacitive, rather than magnetic sensing? Has that been done?
There are probably few applications that need a really low-noise microphone. There will usually be a lot of ambient noise.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics
In the case of small electret mics used in hearing aids about half the noise comes from brownian motion of the air molecules and half from the FET amplifier.
Especially subsonic noise. Omni-directional electret mics often have small holes laser-punched in the diaphragm to provide a well defined low frequenct leak. Otherwise the mic output saturates when doors are closed.
John
** BBC TV news newsreaders invariably wear a small lapel mic - likely an Omni pattern electret. This has low visibility, moves with them and gives a good result.
Classic mic probably refers to something mounted on a stand, likely a true condenser with Cardioid pattern. The result is quite different, more low end and less ambience so "intimate" sounding.
.... Phil
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Very cool. Synchronous rectification in 1963.
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There seems to have been an interest in electrostactic acoustid device some time ago.
Not quite a microphone, but it will work in reverse.
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preamp design
Brian
-- Brian Howie
I built myself a pair of those when I was at school. They sounded very good, but I got fed up with getting electric shocks because of my poorly constructed housing.
John
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